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Piano Voices for AN1X

Piano Voices for AN1X

2001-04-01 by x@johnchivers.com

Hi all

It's been a while since I last checked in here.

I posted a message several months ago asking whether anyone had come 
across a decent-sounding piano voices for the AN1X.

Yes, I realise that the AN1X is NOT the ideal synth for piano voices, 
but I still have to ask the question, because I don't have another 
keyboard, my AN1X is not positioned next to my computer permanently 
(so I can't play midi piano) and my real piano is hideously out of 
tune and awaiting some repair work.

Come on guys - there must be someone who has a patch which sounds 
something like a real piano.  There are plenty of electic piano / 
organ noises and at the end of the day, a piano sound is only a 
waveform.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: [AN1x-list] Piano Voices for AN1X

2001-04-01 by Bastiaan van de Werk

EP's there are plenty off.....but for grand pianos type sounds (iow words
REAL pianos) virtual analogues, analogues or FM synths just don't cut
it....get a rompler/sampler for that.....do you own a soundcards for your
computer? m\ny cards like the EWS or LIVE can support nice pianobanks...

Groetjes,

Bastiaan van de Werk

(all you base are belong to us)
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> Hi all
>
> It's been a while since I last checked in here.
>
> I posted a message several months ago asking whether anyone had come
> across a decent-sounding piano voices for the AN1X.
>
> Yes, I realise that the AN1X is NOT the ideal synth for piano voices,
> but I still have to ask the question, because I don't have another
> keyboard, my AN1X is not positioned next to my computer permanently
> (so I can't play midi piano) and my real piano is hideously out of
> tune and awaiting some repair work.
>
> Come on guys - there must be someone who has a patch which sounds
> something like a real piano.  There are plenty of electic piano /
> organ noises and at the end of the day, a piano sound is only a
> waveform.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
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Re: [AN1x-list] Piano Voices for AN1X

2001-04-01 by Peter Korsten

From: <x@...>

> I posted a message several months ago asking whether anyone had come
> across a decent-sounding piano voices for the AN1X.
>
> Yes, I realise that the AN1X is NOT the ideal synth for piano voices,
> but I still have to ask the question, because I don't have another
> keyboard, my AN1X is not positioned next to my computer permanently
> (so I can't play midi piano) and my real piano is hideously out of
> tune and awaiting some repair work.

It's not so much that the AN1x isn't the ideal synth for piano voices, it's
that it totally sucks at piano voices. :)

If you want realistic piano sounds, your options in order of preference are:
1) A piano
2a) A sampler with a 64 Mb piano sample, plus a weighted keyboard
2b) A Kurzweil K2x00 X (K2500, K2600, possibly the K2000)
3) A sample-based synth with a semi-weighted keyboard
4) A sample-based synth with a synth action keyboard
5) A six or more operator FM synthesiser
6) A substractive synthesiser (like the AN1x)

> Come on guys - there must be someone who has a patch which sounds
> something like a real piano.  There are plenty of electic piano /
> organ noises and at the end of the day, a piano sound is only a
> waveform.

Well, it's not "only a waveform", because the waveform is the most important
part of the piano sound. The only thing that keeps the AN1x from producing
decent piano voices is that you can't have an arbitrary waveform, because
you can only have so many waveforms with two oscillators. A piano waveform
isn't one of them.

As for the electric piano, that's a totally different kettle of fish and
even in this department the AN1x doesn't perform too well. For a nice
electronic piano, you need a six operator FM synth like the DX7, or an FS1r.
The two operator FM of the AN1x is too limited. I got a pretty nice EP from
it, but that cost me quite some time, and still it's nowhere near a real
piano sound.

- Peter

Re: Piano Voices for AN1X

2001-04-01 by x@johnchivers.com

Thanks for going through that, Peter.

Ah well.  It just looks like I'll have to wait until I can afford to 
make the repairs to my real piano.

Thanks again.

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:
> From: <x@...>
> 
> > I posted a message several months ago asking whether anyone had 
come
> > across a decent-sounding piano voices for the AN1X.
> >
> > Yes, I realise that the AN1X is NOT the ideal synth for piano 
voices,
> > but I still have to ask the question, because I don't have another
> > keyboard, my AN1X is not positioned next to my computer 
permanently
> > (so I can't play midi piano) and my real piano is hideously out of
> > tune and awaiting some repair work.
> 
> It's not so much that the AN1x isn't the ideal synth for piano 
voices, it's
> that it totally sucks at piano voices. :)
> 
> If you want realistic piano sounds, your options in order of 
preference are:
> 1) A piano
> 2a) A sampler with a 64 Mb piano sample, plus a weighted keyboard
> 2b) A Kurzweil K2x00 X (K2500, K2600, possibly the K2000)
> 3) A sample-based synth with a semi-weighted keyboard
> 4) A sample-based synth with a synth action keyboard
> 5) A six or more operator FM synthesiser
> 6) A substractive synthesiser (like the AN1x)
> 
> > Come on guys - there must be someone who has a patch which sounds
> > something like a real piano.  There are plenty of electic piano /
> > organ noises and at the end of the day, a piano sound is only a
> > waveform.
> 
> Well, it's not "only a waveform", because the waveform is the most 
important
> part of the piano sound. The only thing that keeps the AN1x from 
producing
> decent piano voices is that you can't have an arbitrary waveform, 
because
> you can only have so many waveforms with two oscillators. A piano 
waveform
> isn't one of them.
> 
> As for the electric piano, that's a totally different kettle of 
fish and
> even in this department the AN1x doesn't perform too well. For a 
nice
> electronic piano, you need a six operator FM synth like the DX7, or 
an FS1r.
> The two operator FM of the AN1x is too limited. I got a pretty nice 
EP from
> it, but that cost me quite some time, and still it's nowhere near a 
real
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> piano sound.
> 
> - Peter

Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Piano Voices for AN1X

2001-04-01 by traun@mail.com

x@... wrote:

> Thanks for going through that, Peter.
>
> Ah well.  It just looks like I'll have to wait until I can afford to
> make the repairs to my real piano.
>
> Thanks again.

I'll try to make you a Piano voice on the AN1x, I can't promise you a
perfect result, but lets se how god it gets.

Regards

Joergen Traun.



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slightly OT: wedradio show

2001-04-02 by Damian Silva

I am just forwarding this for a friend but you guys
should seriously check this show out man.
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Subject: Boston Underground dj schedule for april 2001

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BOSTON UNDERGROUND GUEST DJ LINE-UP
SUNDAY | 9:00-10:30pm(EDT) | www.radioboston.com >
channel 1

MAR25-DAMIAN(AdvancedD&D_philly/boston)jungle

APR01-MATT E LOVE(ElementRecordings_boston)house

APR08-DJ BENNY BLANCO(BlancoDisco_boston)drum n bass

APR15-MANNIX(DrumLife_boston)tribal

APR22-DJ TOBY(CircuitProductions_boston)progressive

APR29-DJ LEAP, MIDAS &
Mo7s(Fortune500Records/TrojanForce_nh)
---special three hour tag team set 9:00pm to
midnight---
-------------------------------------------

--If you are a local DJ (Boston & New England area)
interested in 
dropping 
a set on the show, send a demo cd/tape to the address
below with your 
contact info and genre.

--The same goes for local Producers both signed and
unsigned. 
RadioBoston 
needs more original house, trance, d & b, techno
etc...hit up this 
page for 
more info on that:
http://www.radioboston.com/submitcds/

If you want to be put on radioboston's e-mail list
just let me know. 
That 
way you can get all the updates and event listings for
the rest of the 
station.


Mike Connors / Mannix
RadioBoston.com
c/o New England Streaming Media
48 Grove Street, Suite 303
Somerville, MA 02144
Web: http://www.radioboston.com
email: ej_mannix@...


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RE: [AN1x-list] slightly OT: wedradio show

2001-04-02 by Apuhjee

nice set the other day on masscommradio :)  do you
use an an1x for production?  i'd be interested in
hearing your stuff if you do!

cheers ~ jason
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Subject: [AN1x-list] slightly OT: wedradio show


I am just forwarding this for a friend but you guys
should seriously check this show out man.




Subject: Boston Underground dj schedule for april 2001

----------------------------------------
BOSTON UNDERGROUND GUEST DJ LINE-UP
SUNDAY | 9:00-10:30pm(EDT) | www.radioboston.com >
channel 1

MAR25-DAMIAN(AdvancedD&D_philly/boston)jungle

APR01-MATT E LOVE(ElementRecordings_boston)house

APR08-DJ BENNY BLANCO(BlancoDisco_boston)drum n bass

APR15-MANNIX(DrumLife_boston)tribal

APR22-DJ TOBY(CircuitProductions_boston)progressive

APR29-DJ LEAP, MIDAS &
Mo7s(Fortune500Records/TrojanForce_nh)
---special three hour tag team set 9:00pm to
midnight---
-------------------------------------------

--If you are a local DJ (Boston & New England area)
interested in 
dropping 
a set on the show, send a demo cd/tape to the address
below with your 
contact info and genre.

--The same goes for local Producers both signed and
unsigned. 
RadioBoston 
needs more original house, trance, d & b, techno
etc...hit up this 
page for 
more info on that:
http://www.radioboston.com/submitcds/

If you want to be put on radioboston's e-mail list
just let me know. 
That 
way you can get all the updates and event listings for
the rest of the 
station.


Mike Connors / Mannix
RadioBoston.com
c/o New England Streaming Media
48 Grove Street, Suite 303
Somerville, MA 02144
Web: http://www.radioboston.com
email: ej_mannix@...


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