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All,

I've just discovered that one of the two patches that I uploaded yesterday, 
"Wacked" has a strange property:  It seems to store up notes, if it can't 
handle them all!  Try this test -- load that patch and run your hands up 
and down the keyboard in a two-handed gliss very quickly, then remove your 
hands; the keyboard keeps playing some of the notes that you added, about 
1/2-1 second after you played them.  It's the only patch that I can find 
that exhibits this strange behavior, and I've compared its settings with 
other patches, and turned features on and off, but the "feature" stays.

Anybody have an idea what's going on?


Regards,

-BW

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Envelope or effect decay times, no doubt.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Wahler" <bruce@...>
To: "AN1x List" <an1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 1:50 PM
Subject: [AN1x-list] Keyboard overflow


> All,
>
> I've just discovered that one of the two patches that I uploaded
yesterday,

> "Wacked" has a strange property:  It seems to store up notes, if it can't
> handle them all!  Try this test -- load that patch and run your hands up
> and down the keyboard in a two-handed gliss very quickly, then remove your
> hands; the keyboard keeps playing some of the notes that you added, about
> 1/2-1 second after you played them.  It's the only patch that I can find
> that exhibits this strange behavior, and I've compared its settings with
> other patches, and turned features on and off, but the "feature" stays.
>
> Anybody have an idea what's going on?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -BW
>
> --
> Bruce Wahler
> Design Consultant
> Ashby Solutions"
> www.ashbysolutions.com
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>Envelope or effect decay times, no doubt.

No, that's not it.  The reverb and echo are set to soft settings, and the 
VCA decay is about 10, and here's the kicker:  I cannot get it to happen 
with normal, single-hand riffs.  It requires either two hands working 
frantically, or palm smears, a la Hammond organ.

Here's a simple test that works every time:  If I put my right hand on 
Middle C and gliss up to high C and back down again -- no overflow.  If I 
put the left hand on the F below Middle C and gliss both hands up to the 
top and back again, when I take my hands off (at around the same notes as 
where I started), the keyboard is actually only playing High-F/high-C at 
that moment, and about a half second later, it glisses down to the end 
notes -- even though I'm no longer touching the keys!


Regards,

-BW

--
Bruce Wahler
Design Consultant
Ashby Solutions"
www.ashbysolutions.com
CloneWheel Support Group moderator
978.386.7389  voice
978.776.0096  fax
bruce@...

Congratulations!  You've now joined the ranks of guitar synthesists by
playing faster than the unit can track the notes.

(...maybe...Idunno...weird...uh, which .zip file of patchs is "Wacked" in?)

or -- could it be the free envelope generator
or -- are you pressing the hold pedal (this sounds like troubleshooting
advice in the back of anything electronic... "be sure the unit is plugged
in", "be sure the volume knob is turned clockwise", "using 2 hands, check if
your butt is still connected)

Yo, and I've got a bone to pick with someone who said that the LEDs blinked
when the envelope generator is playing.  Try watching them when you are
editing a patch name - as you scroll through the alphabet, the LEDs flash on
certain characters.  What's that all about, special signals from Yamaha?

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bruce Wahler" <bruce@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Keyboard overflow


>
> >Envelope or effect decay times, no doubt.
>
> No, that's not it.  The reverb and echo are set to soft settings, and the
> VCA decay is about 10, and here's the kicker:  I cannot get it to happen
> with normal, single-hand riffs.  It requires either two hands working
> frantically, or palm smears, a la Hammond organ.
>
> Here's a simple test that works every time:  If I put my right hand on
> Middle C and gliss up to high C and back down again -- no overflow.  If I
> put the left hand on the F below Middle C and gliss both hands up to the
> top and back again, when I take my hands off (at around the same notes as
> where I started), the keyboard is actually only playing High-F/high-C at
> that moment, and about a half second later, it glisses down to the end
> notes -- even though I'm no longer touching the keys!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -BW
>
> --
> Bruce Wahler
> Design Consultant
> Ashby Solutions"
> www.ashbysolutions.com
> CloneWheel Support Group moderator
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Ed,

>Congratulations!  You've now joined the ranks of guitar synthesists by
>playing faster than the unit can track the notes.
>
>(...maybe...Idunno...weird...uh, which .zip file of patchs is "Wacked" in?)

Whacked is in the 'drawbars' folder as part of GuitSync.zip.

>or -- could it be the free envelope generator

Nope, as far as I can tell, the free EG isn't being used.

>or -- are you pressing the hold pedal

No.


Regards,

-BW

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Bruce Wahler
Design Consultant
Ashby Solutions"
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CloneWheel Support Group moderator
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Hey Ed
I think you've got a Micro alien living in your AN1X.

Leo



Ed Edwards wrote:

> 
> Congratulations!  You've now joined the ranks of guitar synthesists by
> playing faster than the unit can track the notes.
> 
> (...maybe...Idunno...weird...uh, which .zip file of patchs is "Wacked" in?)
> 
> or -- could it be the free envelope generator
> or -- are you pressing the hold pedal (this sounds like troubleshooting
> advice in the back of anything electronic... "be sure the unit is plugged
> in", "be sure the volume knob is turned clockwise", "using 2 hands, check if
> your butt is still connected)
> 
> Yo, and I've got a bone to pick with someone who said that the LEDs blinked
> when the envelope generator is playing.  Try watching them when you are
> editing a patch name - as you scroll through the alphabet, the LEDs flash on
> certain characters.  What's that all about, special signals from Yamaha?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Wahler" <bruce@...>
> To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Keyboard overflow
> 
> >
> > >Envelope or effect decay times, no doubt.
> >
> > No, that's not it.  The reverb and echo are set to soft settings, and the
> > VCA decay is about 10, and here's the kicker:  I cannot get it to happen
> > with normal, single-hand riffs.  It requires either two hands working
> > frantically, or palm smears, a la Hammond organ.
> >
> > Here's a simple test that works every time:  If I put my right hand on
> > Middle C and gliss up to high C and back down again -- no overflow.  If I
> > put the left hand on the F below Middle C and gliss both hands up to the
> > top and back again, when I take my hands off (at around the same notes as
> > where I started), the keyboard is actually only playing High-F/high-C at
> > that moment, and about a half second later, it glisses down to the end
> > notes -- even though I'm no longer touching the keys!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -BW
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Wahler
> > Design Consultant
> > Ashby Solutions"
> > www.ashbysolutions.com
> > CloneWheel Support Group moderator
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> "Wacked" has a strange property 

Bruce:

It worked for me as described. I guess I have two observations:

- This synth has an analog synth personality (what with behaving 
strangely on cold days and doing inexplicable delayed notes)

- Your patches were very cool.

Cheers,

Jerry

Or a ghost...

A ghost played my an1x when I was about to record a midi track on cakewalk.

It played exactly the same notes that I had been playing  just few seconds
ago.
But there was a new kind of groove...

Erkki
----- Original Message -----
From: leo <tubeman@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Keyboard overflow


> Hey Ed
> I think you've got a Micro alien living in your AN1X.
>
> Leo
>
>
>
> Ed Edwards wrote:
> >
> > Congratulations!  You've now joined the ranks of guitar synthesists by
> > playing faster than the unit can track the notes.
> >
> > (...maybe...Idunno...weird...uh, which .zip file of patchs is "Wacked"
in?)
> >
> > or -- could it be the free envelope generator
> > or -- are you pressing the hold pedal (this sounds like troubleshooting
> > advice in the back of anything electronic... "be sure the unit is
plugged
> > in", "be sure the volume knob is turned clockwise", "using 2 hands,
check if
> > your butt is still connected)
> >
> > Yo, and I've got a bone to pick with someone who said that the LEDs
blinked
> > when the envelope generator is playing.  Try watching them when you are
> > editing a patch name - as you scroll through the alphabet, the LEDs
flash on
> > certain characters.  What's that all about, special signals from Yamaha?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Wahler" <bruce@...>
> > To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Keyboard overflow
> >
> > >
> > > >Envelope or effect decay times, no doubt.
> > >
> > > No, that's not it.  The reverb and echo are set to soft settings, and
the
> > > VCA decay is about 10, and here's the kicker:  I cannot get it to
happen
> > > with normal, single-hand riffs.  It requires either two hands working
> > > frantically, or palm smears, a la Hammond organ.
> > >
> > > Here's a simple test that works every time:  If I put my right hand on
> > > Middle C and gliss up to high C and back down again -- no overflow.
If I
> > > put the left hand on the F below Middle C and gliss both hands up to
the
> > > top and back again, when I take my hands off (at around the same notes
as
> > > where I started), the keyboard is actually only playing High-F/high-C
at
> > > that moment, and about a half second later, it glisses down to the end
> > > notes -- even though I'm no longer touching the keys!
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -BW
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruce Wahler
> > > Design Consultant
> > > Ashby Solutions"
> > > www.ashbysolutions.com
> > > CloneWheel Support Group moderator
> > > 978.386.7389  voice
> > > 978.776.0096  fax
> > > bruce@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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