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noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!

noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!

2001-03-08 by J Acker

Just wondering...the white noise generator, since it isn't melodic, is there a 
way to combine it with the voice that doesn't just sound like noise tacked on?

Another thing...could someone explain...is the AN1x a subtractive synth? Can someone give me the whole description of what type of synth this is? I read at a lot of the synth sites about generic types...additive, subtractive, etc. an am not sure.

Also is the FM in the AN1x different than the Fm Yamaha came out with on the earlier models mentioned in the literature on synths in general?

Thanks,

Jim

                          James R. Acker
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Re: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!

2001-03-08 by Bastiaan van de Werk

I never use the noise ...or hardly ever..

The an1x is a substractive synth...you generate the sound and than substract
frequencies with the filters.

The FM is basically the same albeit way simpler...the older FM synths have
at least 4 or 6 operaters (all sine tho)



Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards,

Bastiaan van de Werk
----- Original Message -----
From: J Acker <jacker@...>
To: AN1x List <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:54 PM
Subject: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!


> Just wondering...the white noise generator, since it isn't melodic, is
there a
> way to combine it with the voice that doesn't just sound like noise tacked
on?
>
> Another thing...could someone explain...is the AN1x a subtractive synth?
Can someone give me the whole description of what type of synth this is? I
read at a lot of the synth sites about generic types...additive,
subtractive, etc. an am not sure.
>
> Also is the FM in the AN1x different than the Fm Yamaha came out with on
the earlier models mentioned in the literature on synths in general?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>                           James R. Acker
>      jacker@... listen to my music at.....
> ==============================================================
> My first CD "Tabasco Road" can be heard at
http://www.connectpoint.com/acker
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Re: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!

2001-03-08 by Erkki Männikkö

I have no idea how to make noise anything else but noise...
With some sounds it makes no difference how much noise there is.

I don\ufffdt have any theoretical knowledge...
I just morph - and that \ufffds great.

Hmmm

Erkki

----- Original Message -----
From: Bastiaan van de Werk <Hajee@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!


> I never use the noise ...or hardly ever..
>
> The an1x is a substractive synth...you generate the sound and than
substract
> frequencies with the filters.
>
> The FM is basically the same albeit way simpler...the older FM synths have
> at least 4 or 6 operaters (all sine tho)
>
>
>
> Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards,
>
> Bastiaan van de Werk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: J Acker <jacker@...>
> To: AN1x List <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:54 PM
> Subject: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!
>
>
> > Just wondering...the white noise generator, since it isn't melodic, is
> there a
> > way to combine it with the voice that doesn't just sound like noise
tacked
> on?
> >
> > Another thing...could someone explain...is the AN1x a subtractive synth?
> Can someone give me the whole description of what type of synth this is? I
> read at a lot of the synth sites about generic types...additive,
> subtractive, etc. an am not sure.
> >
> > Also is the FM in the AN1x different than the Fm Yamaha came out with on
> the earlier models mentioned in the literature on synths in general?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >                           James R. Acker
> >      jacker@... listen to my music at.....
> > ==============================================================
> > My first CD "Tabasco Road" can be heard at
> http://www.connectpoint.com/acker
> >     (With thanks to Mike Jones for hosting it)
> > My current songs can be now heard at my site:
http://home.sol.no/~jacker/
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!

2001-03-08 by Bruce Wahler

Jim,

>Just wondering...the white noise generator, since it isn't melodic,
>there a way to combine it with the voice that doesn't just sound
>like noise tacked on?

Sometimes, you WANT noise tacked on to the sound, to give it an edgier 
feel.  A good example is that pulse behind the song in "Special" by Garbage.

When you want to more melodic sound, try setting the filter to BPF, and 
setting the Resonance fairly high -- but not to the point of 
self-oscillation.  Of course, this means that any other waves in the sound 
also get a BPF "bath," so you might want to use a dual configuration, and 
give the noise generator its own filter and EG's.

>Another thing...could someone explain...is the AN1x a subtractive synth? 
>Can someone give me the whole description of what type of synth this is? I 
>read at a lot of the synth sites about generic types...additive, 
>subtractive, etc. an am not sure.

The AN1x is a digital "physical modeling" synthesizer that emulates an 
analog subtractive instrument.  (Whew!)  Normally, subtractive synths use 
waveforms that are rich in harmonics like sawtooth and square/pulse, and 
then use filtering to remove unwanted harmonics.  Additive synths, OTOH, 
tend to use sine waves only, as they are trying to go in the other 
direction -- creating complex waves out of the sum of their harmonics, and 
all harmonics can be expressed as sine waves.  (It is possible to use 
complex waveforms in additive synthesis, but the results are often 
difficult to manage.)

>Also is the FM in the AN1x different than the Fm Yamaha came out with on 
>the earlier models mentioned in the literature on synths in general?

The AN1x also has the ability to create FM synthesis, although the 
combinations (algorithms) provided are extremely simple, when compared to 
an FM-only synth.  Most FM synths use sine waves only, although the Yamaha 
TX-81z allowed waves with "medium" harmonic density, as well as sine waves.

Regards,

-BW

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Bruce Wahler
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Re: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!

2001-03-10 by Bastiaan van de Werk

2 op.=  one carrier and one modulator... ( or 2 x 2 when in dual mode)

the 4 and 6 op have more operators that can be configured in many ways....a
nice way to experimanet with this is with the FM generator in Soundforge...I
made some excellent bass samples for my sampler with it..

have fun!


Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards,

Bastiaan van de Werk
----- Original Message -----
From: J Acker <jacker@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: SV: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!


> Dank u vel.. :-)
>
> when you mention the others had 4 or 6 operators...does the AN1x have only
one?
>
> Jim
>                           James R. Acker
>      jacker@... listen to my music at.....
> ==============================================================
> My first CD "Tabasco Road" can be heard at
http://www.connectpoint.com/acker
>     (With thanks to Mike Jones for hosting it)
> My current songs can be now heard at my site: http://home.sol.no/~jacker/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Fra: Bastiaan van de Werk <Hajee@...>
> Til: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Sendt: 8. mars 2001 22:01
> Emne: Re: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!
>
>
> > I never use the noise ...or hardly ever..
> >
> > The an1x is a substractive synth...you generate the sound and than
substract
> > frequencies with the filters.
> >
> > The FM is basically the same albeit way simpler...the older FM synths
have
> > at least 4 or 6 operaters (all sine tho)
> >
> >
> >
> > Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards,
> >
> > Bastiaan van de Werk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: J Acker <jacker@...>
> > To: AN1x List <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:54 PM
> > Subject: [AN1x-list] noise...what is it good for..HUH..say it again!
> >
> >
> > > Just wondering...the white noise generator, since it isn't melodic, is
> > there a
> > > way to combine it with the voice that doesn't just sound like noise
tacked
> > on?
> > >
> > > Another thing...could someone explain...is the AN1x a subtractive
synth?
> > Can someone give me the whole description of what type of synth this is?
I
> > read at a lot of the synth sites about generic types...additive,
> > subtractive, etc. an am not sure.
> > >
> > > Also is the FM in the AN1x different than the Fm Yamaha came out with
on
> > the earlier models mentioned in the literature on synths in general?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >                           James R. Acker
> > >      jacker@... listen to my music at.....
> > > ==============================================================
> > > My first CD "Tabasco Road" can be heard at
> > http://www.connectpoint.com/acker
> > >     (With thanks to Mike Jones for hosting it)
> > > My current songs can be now heard at my site:
http://home.sol.no/~jacker/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Community email addresses:
> > >   Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > >   Subscribe:    AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> > >   List owner:   AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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> >
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