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2001-03-07 by Robert Doolittle
The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, I don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where aftertouch seems to do anything. Am I missing something? Thanks again, Robert
2001-03-07 by Ed Edwards
Hi Robert, 1. Blinky lights = ok. Yes, it's weird, but maybe Yamaha was just trying to entertain us. 2. The upgrade rom doesn't seem to be necessary, but it is available if you nag Yamaha. 3. Aftertouch is certainly available, but if somehow it is not routed correctly in the Ctrl Device Utility in the Matrix, it won't work. You might try a full system reset to factory presets to be able to examine things easily. I forget how to do this (manual not nearby)... anyone else know how to reset? Ed ----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doolittle" <robertdol@...> To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 12:12 AM Subject: [AN1x-list] One more quick question > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, I > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > Am I missing something? > > Thanks again, > Robert > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2001-03-07 by Robert Doolittle
Thanks for all the information. I did do a 7+8+9 on powerup and then selected 9 for a factory reset. Still no aftertouch on the keys. The blinky lights are mostly noticed on patch two with both scenes on. Weird. Does your keyboard have an "aftertouch" feel at all? This seems like there is no play at all at the bottom. Is there a patch that should show the merits of the aftertouch? Thanks again. Robert --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...> wrote: > Hi Robert, > 1. Blinky lights = ok. Yes, it's weird, but maybe Yamaha was just trying to > entertain us. > 2. The upgrade rom doesn't seem to be necessary, but it is available if you > nag Yamaha. > 3. Aftertouch is certainly available, but if somehow it is not routed > correctly in the Ctrl Device Utility in the Matrix, it won't work. You > might try a full system reset to factory presets to be able to examine > things easily. I forget how to do this (manual not nearby)... anyone else > know how to reset? > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Doolittle" <robertdol@y...> > To: <AN1x-list@y...> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 12:12 AM > Subject: [AN1x-list] One more quick question > > > > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, I > > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Thanks again, > > Robert > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: AN1x-list@y... > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@y... > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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2001-03-07 by Mikael Askernäs
My An1x has aftertouch ..... in fact it has almost too much aftertouch, so if i dont turn aftertouch off in my sequencer prog, i get a lot ot trash midi data where i dont need it .. =) maybe i got yours ? //Micke
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Doolittle [mailto:robertdol@...] Sent: den 7 mars 2001 07:58 To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: One more quick question Thanks for all the information. I did do a 7+8+9 on powerup and then selected 9 for a factory reset. Still no aftertouch on the keys. The blinky lights are mostly noticed on patch two with both scenes on. Weird. Does your keyboard have an "aftertouch" feel at all? This seems like there is no play at all at the bottom. Is there a patch that should show the merits of the aftertouch? Thanks again. Robert --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...> wrote: > Hi Robert, > 1. Blinky lights = ok. Yes, it's weird, but maybe Yamaha was just trying to > entertain us. > 2. The upgrade rom doesn't seem to be necessary, but it is available if you > nag Yamaha. > 3. Aftertouch is certainly available, but if somehow it is not routed > correctly in the Ctrl Device Utility in the Matrix, it won't work. You > might try a full system reset to factory presets to be able to examine > things easily. I forget how to do this (manual not nearby)... anyone else > know how to reset? > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Doolittle" <robertdol@y...> > To: <AN1x-list@y...> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 12:12 AM > Subject: [AN1x-list] One more quick question > > > > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, I > > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Thanks again, > > Robert > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: AN1x-list@y... > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@y... > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Community email addresses: Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2001-03-07 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com
--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...> wrote: > Hi Robert, > 1. Blinky lights = ok. Yes, it's weird, but maybe Yamaha was just trying to > entertain us. I believe that if you check the Voice parameters when you noticed the blinking lights you might find one or more tracks in the FreeEG are programmed to affect some parameter change(s). I believe the flashing indicator lights are meant as a visual aid so you are aware a value has been altered from their preprogrammed value. Jon
2001-03-07 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com
--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Robert Doolittle" <robertdol@y...> wrote: > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, I > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > Am I missing something? Not every Voice is programmed to use aftertouch. For example, those patches which closely emulate vintage, analog patches omit AT as the originals did not have this feature. Consequently the Ribbon Controller may be programmed to affect similar changes that AT would affect on modern synths. This is simply some programmers attempt at authenticity ;-) If you take a look at the AN1x Data List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Documentation/an1xe2.pdf you'll find descriptions for the Factory-set Voice list. This should help give you a better idea of which real time controllers are programmed for what. You may have noticed from the other posts in this thread that some users find the AT sensitivity on the AN1x to be _too_sensitive. There's no way to scale the AT transmitted from the AN1x to external modules - if you feel similar to some of the others than you'll need to 1) filter the reception of AT in your sw sequencer (as suggested) or 2) alter the mod depth settings on your external MIDI module. The alternative might have been a keyboard w/ AT sensitivity so weak that you had to lean into the keyboard with your weight on it to trigger AT ;-) HTH, Jon
> > Thanks again, > Robert
2001-03-07 by RayMaxer
I suppose by saying it got a too big sensivity everybody that it's just too 'discrete' ... u have to push rather hard for it to start functioning , but a lil' bit more and it's 127 already .. and it goes like 0 , 25, 60 , 85, 109 and 127 ... too little steps .. Is it much better on other synths (keybs) ? I am running only one keyb. here , others are rack .. well . (except a 'new' s/h Roland SH-101 which I've got today) heh ... Ray. jondl@... wrote: > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Robert Doolittle" <robertdol@y...> wrote: > > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, > I > > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > > > Am I missing something? > > Not every Voice is programmed to use aftertouch. For example, those > patches which closely emulate vintage, analog patches omit AT as the > originals did not have this feature. Consequently the Ribbon > Controller may be programmed to affect similar changes that AT would > affect on modern synths. This is simply some programmers attempt at > authenticity ;-) > > If you take a look at the AN1x Data List > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Documentation/an1xe2.pdf > > you'll find descriptions for the Factory-set Voice list. This should > help give you a better idea of which real time controllers are > programmed for what. > > You may have noticed from the other posts in this thread that some > users find the AT sensitivity on the AN1x to be _too_sensitive. > There's no way to scale the AT transmitted from the AN1x to external > modules - if you feel similar to some of the others than you'll need > to 1) filter the reception of AT in your sw sequencer (as suggested) > or 2) alter the mod depth settings on your external MIDI module. The > alternative might have been a keyboard w/ AT sensitivity so weak that > you had to lean into the keyboard with your weight on it to trigger > AT ;-) > > HTH, > > Jon > > > > > Thanks again, > > Robert > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.mp3.com/raymaxer - full tracks and CD !
2001-03-07 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com
Hi Ray, --- In AN1x-list@y..., RayMaxer <digil@d...> wrote: > I suppose by saying it got a too big sensivity everybody that it's functioning , but ajust too > 'discrete' ... u have to push rather hard for it to start > lil' bit more and it's 127 already .. and it goes like 0 , 25, 60 , 85, 109 > and 127 ... too little steps .. No, just the opposite - the AN1x is too sensitive, i.e., it takes very little effort to jump from a value of '0' to '63' to '127'. > Is it much better on other synths (keybs) ? I am running only one keyb. here > , others are rack .. well . > (except a 'new' s/h Roland SH-101 which I've got today) heh ... > Well it's really a matter of personal preference but I bet if you polled the AN1x-list members a majority would say it's too sensitive. Congrats on the SH-101! What a fun new buy that must be :-) Jon > Ray. > > jondl@j... wrote: > > > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Robert Doolittle" <robertdol@y...> wrote: > > > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, > > I > > > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > > > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Not every Voice is programmed to use aftertouch. For example, those > > patches which closely emulate vintage, analog patches omit AT as the > > originals did not have this feature. Consequently the Ribbon > > Controller may be programmed to affect similar changes that AT would > > affect on modern synths. This is simply some programmers attempt at > > authenticity ;-) > > > > If you take a look at the AN1x Data List > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x- list/files/Documentation/an1xe2.pdf > > > > you'll find descriptions for the Factory-set Voice list. This should > > help give you a better idea of which real time controllers are > > programmed for what. > > > > You may have noticed from the other posts in this thread that some > > users find the AT sensitivity on the AN1x to be _too_sensitive. > > There's no way to scale the AT transmitted from the AN1x to external > > modules - if you feel similar to some of the others than you'll need > > to 1) filter the reception of AT in your sw sequencer (as suggested) > > or 2) alter the mod depth settings on your external MIDI module. The > > alternative might have been a keyboard w/ AT sensitivity so weak that > > you had to lean into the keyboard with your weight on it to trigger > > AT ;-) > > > > HTH, > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > Robert > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: AN1x-list@y... > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@y... > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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2001-03-07 by Erkki Männikkö
Hello Robert There is aftertouch. You need to make the connections in the control matrix (to the right hand side, top row) It may be hard to understand the matrix (hope you are not "midiot" like I am) The channel aftertouch in an1x is not very sensitive. Maybe adjusting keybord velocity does the trick.(bottom row of the matrix) Erkki ----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Doolittle <robertdol@...> To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:12 AM Subject: [AN1x-list] One more quick question > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, I > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > Am I missing something? > > Thanks again, > Robert > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2001-03-08 by Robert Doolittle
Yeah, I know it works now. Used cakewalk and controlled another instrument with a patch that took aftertouch. Worked great. Thanks for the help. What a great helpful group you all are. Robert --- In AN1x-list@y..., Erkki Männikkö <ihanaa@n...> wrote: > Hello Robert > > There is aftertouch. > You need to make the connections in the control matrix (to the right hand > side, top row) > > It may be hard to understand the matrix (hope you are not "midiot" like I > am) > The channel aftertouch in an1x is not very sensitive. > Maybe adjusting keybord velocity does the trick.(bottom row of the matrix) > > Erkki > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Doolittle <robertdol@y...> > To: <AN1x-list@y...> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:12 AM > Subject: [AN1x-list] One more quick question > > > > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, however, I > > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Thanks again, > > Robert > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: AN1x-list@y... > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@y... > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >
2001-03-08 by RayMaxer
Yeah , that's what I meant - sorry for bad writing I was very tired at that moment .. I meant that it's rather hard to puish it to move from to something , but if you moved it from 0 then there is a big choice of coming to 127. If they somehow made it so that AT value started going up somehow with a lighter touch it would be better. Does anyone know if it's much better on other keyboards ? Yeah , SH-101 is really fun , bass is really cool , can't be compared to AN-1x's bass. (though I love my AN-1x) Havn't yet plugged it to the VIRUS so that I could have some FX on it , but even playing it dry was not bad. Now if only I could find a good condition Juno106 :) A Bit OT : Does anyone here have Waldorf Pulse ? Any comments ? Ray. jondl@... wrote: > Hi Ray, > > --- In AN1x-list@y..., RayMaxer <digil@d...> wrote: > > I suppose by saying it got a too big sensivity everybody that it's > functioning , but ajust too > > 'discrete' ... u have to push rather hard for it to start > > lil' bit more and it's 127 already .. and it goes like 0 , 25, 60 , > 85, 109 > > and 127 ... too little steps .. > > No, just the opposite - the AN1x is too sensitive, i.e., it takes > very little effort to jump from a value of '0' to '63' to '127'. > > > Is it much better on other synths (keybs) ? I am running only one > keyb. here > > , others are rack .. well . > > (except a 'new' s/h Roland SH-101 which I've got today) heh ... > > > > Well it's really a matter of personal preference but I bet if you > polled the AN1x-list members a majority would say it's too sensitive. > > Congrats on the SH-101! What a fun new buy that must be :-) > > Jon > > > Ray. > > > > jondl@j... wrote: > > > > > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Robert Doolittle" <robertdol@y...> wrote: > > > > The feature set mentions that the keyboard has aftertouch, > however, > > > I > > > > don't seem to feel it in the keyboard or find any patches where > > > > aftertouch seems to do anything. > > > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > > > Not every Voice is programmed to use aftertouch. For example, > those > > > patches which closely emulate vintage, analog patches omit AT as > the > > > originals did not have this feature. Consequently the Ribbon > > > Controller may be programmed to affect similar changes that AT > would > > > affect on modern synths. This is simply some programmers attempt > at > > > authenticity ;-) > > > > > > If you take a look at the AN1x Data List > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x- > list/files/Documentation/an1xe2.pdf > > > > > > you'll find descriptions for the Factory-set Voice list. This > should > > > help give you a better idea of which real time controllers are > > > programmed for what. > > > > > > You may have noticed from the other posts in this thread that some > > > users find the AT sensitivity on the AN1x to be _too_sensitive. > > > There's no way to scale the AT transmitted from the AN1x to > external > > > modules - if you feel similar to some of the others than you'll > need > > > to 1) filter the reception of AT in your sw sequencer (as > suggested) > > > or 2) alter the mod depth settings on your external MIDI module. > The > > > alternative might have been a keyboard w/ AT sensitivity so weak > that > > > you had to lean into the keyboard with your weight on it to > trigger > > > AT ;-) > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Robert > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > > Post message: AN1x-list@y... > > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@y... > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > -- > > http://www.mp3.com/raymaxer - full tracks and CD ! > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.mp3.com/raymaxer - full tracks and CD !
2001-03-08 by Tom Eales
Someone wanted to know about the waldorf pulse, I have got a pulse plus which is the same with cv outs and an audio in and it is my favourite bit of kit, the sounds are quite raw and analogue ranging to crystal clear lead sounds, and the best thing is the random patch generator between programmes 0 and 99, it is really good, sounds are fat and editing is very clear and easy.I actually prefer it to my an1x-sorry, eventhough that has a broader range of applications with the editor.If u don't have a pulse, buy one now. Or try the waldorf ppg wave plug in instrument, it is mindblowing, so is the mercury 1 actually, the first proper virtual instruments! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
2001-03-08 by Bruce Wahler
Ray, >If they somehow made it so that AT value started going up somehow with a >lighter touch it would be better. >Does anyone know if it's much better on other keyboards ? Yes, I've played other keyboards with a more even, useable feel to the AT. IMHO, great AT starts off very slowly, and only really kicks in toward the end of its travel, so that the player has to make a little effort to add the AT. (How not to make AT, though: the original Alesis Quadrasynth, which has so strong a physical barrier built into the keys that it almost "clicks" when the function is engaged.) In particular, I liked the feel of the AT on my Roland D-50, which had the added benefit of an AT slider, to limit the maximum value sent to the mix. Unfortunately, really good AT costs money, in the form of a pricey key action, and many synth manufacturers seem to treat AT as a great area for cost reduction. :^( >Now if only I could find a good condition Juno106 :) The Juno-106 was a great synth, but if you're looking classic Roland -- and can't see your way to a Jupiter -- try to find a Juno-60 with the MIDI adapter. I played both a Juno-6 -- same sound engine as the '60, but without programmability-- and the '106 in the same band for several years -- and while it's strictly a subjective view, I thought that the only place where the '106 was the clear winner was in string sounds. The '60 had a very fat sound, especially on the low end. Regards, -BW -- Bruce Wahler Design Consultant Ashby Solutions" www.ashbysolutions.com CloneWheel Support Group moderator 978.386.7389 voice 978.776.0096 fax bruce@...
2001-03-08 by leo
Hey Tom I've got also the Pulse plus It is a great synth but it is Mono while the AN1X is poly like 10 mono synths ! The Pulse plus sounds a little like my minimoog but different it is capable of being too phat -if it's possible. as it have 3 analog VCO's/oscilators. I wish it had all sliders and polyphony. In my hubmble view, the AN1x sounds totaly unique and can compete every day with any other synth on cool sounds. It is one of the best VA I have ever heard. by the way, after talking to a tech, I found out that there are some features and upgrades on the pulse plus not available on the regular pulse. Leo Tom Eales wrote:
> > Someone wanted to know about the waldorf pulse, I have > got a pulse plus which is the same with cv outs and an > audio in and it is my favourite bit of kit, the > sounds are quite raw and analogue ranging to crystal > clear lead sounds, and the best thing is the random > patch generator between programmes 0 and 99, it is > really good, sounds are fat and editing is very clear > and easy.I actually prefer it to my an1x-sorry, > eventhough that has a broader range of applications > with the editor.If u don't have a pulse, buy one now. > Or try the waldorf ppg wave plug in instrument, it is > mindblowing, so is the mercury 1 actually, the first > proper virtual instruments! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2001-03-09 by RayMaxer
Hm , Leo - like what ? (about new features on Plus compared to usual Pulse ?) I agree - I LOVE the sound of AN-1x and the wya you can shape .. it's really great to have EQ in it btw , and FeedBack thingy is VERY important in having sounds a bit different to simple analog models .. insert fx are cool , and I LOVE the chorus in AN-1x ! (Compared to VIRUS chorus f.e.) Ray. leo wrote: > Hey Tom > I've got also the Pulse plus > It is a great synth but it is Mono > while the AN1X is poly like 10 mono synths ! > The Pulse plus sounds a little like my minimoog but different > it is capable of being too phat -if it's possible. > as it have 3 analog VCO's/oscilators. > I wish it had all sliders and polyphony. > In my hubmble view, > the AN1x sounds totaly unique and can compete > every day with any other synth on cool sounds. > It is one of the best VA I have ever heard. > > by the way, > after talking to a tech, > I found out that there are some features and upgrades on the pulse plus > not available on the regular pulse. > > Leo > > Tom Eales wrote: > > > > Someone wanted to know about the waldorf pulse, I have > > got a pulse plus which is the same with cv outs and an > > audio in and it is my favourite bit of kit, the > > sounds are quite raw and analogue ranging to crystal > > clear lead sounds, and the best thing is the random > > patch generator between programmes 0 and 99, it is > > really good, sounds are fat and editing is very clear > > and easy.I actually prefer it to my an1x-sorry, > > eventhough that has a broader range of applications > > with the editor.If u don't have a pulse, buy one now. > > Or try the waldorf ppg wave plug in instrument, it is > > mindblowing, so is the mercury 1 actually, the first > > proper virtual instruments! > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.mp3.com/raymaxer - full tracks and CD !
2001-03-09 by RayMaxer
Juno-60 with midi adapter ? it's a CV unit right ? so you mean something like Kenton Midi->CV converter ? How does it work ? I mean - does it control many different params by MIDI or it only basic note info or what ? Thanks. Ray. Bruce Wahler wrote: > Ray, > > >If they somehow made it so that AT value started going up somehow with a > >lighter touch it would be better. > >Does anyone know if it's much better on other keyboards ? > > Yes, I've played other keyboards with a more even, useable feel to the > AT. IMHO, great AT starts off very slowly, and only really kicks in toward > the end of its travel, so that the player has to make a little effort to > add the AT. (How not to make AT, though: the original Alesis Quadrasynth, > which has so strong a physical barrier built into the keys that it almost > "clicks" when the function is engaged.) In particular, I liked the feel of > the AT on my Roland D-50, which had the added benefit of an AT slider, to > limit the maximum value sent to the mix. Unfortunately, really good AT > costs money, in the form of a pricey key action, and many synth > manufacturers seem to treat AT as a great area for cost reduction. :^( > > >Now if only I could find a good condition Juno106 :) > > The Juno-106 was a great synth, but if you're looking classic Roland -- and > can't see your way to a Jupiter -- try to find a Juno-60 with the MIDI > adapter. I played both a Juno-6 -- same sound engine as the '60, but > without programmability-- and the '106 in the same band for several years > -- and while it's strictly a subjective view, I thought that the only place > where the '106 was the clear winner was in string sounds. The '60 had a > very fat sound, especially on the low end. > > Regards, > > -BW > > -- > Bruce Wahler > Design Consultant > Ashby Solutions" > www.ashbysolutions.com > CloneWheel Support Group moderator > 978.386.7389 voice > 978.776.0096 fax > bruce@... > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.mp3.com/raymaxer - full tracks and CD !
2001-03-09 by Bruce Wahler
Ray, >Juno-60 with midi adapter ? it's a CV unit right ? so you mean >something like Kenton Midi->CV converter ? How does it work ? >I mean - does it control many different params by MIDI or it >only basic note info or what ? No, I don't believe that the Juno-60 was a CV synth. It had a proprietary, pre-MIDI digital interface, with a connector that looked a bit (physically) like a Centronics printer interface; I think Roland called it 'DBB' or something. Some of the other Roland synths of the same era might have used the same method, I'm not sure. Anyway, after MIDI came out, Roland released a DBB-to-MIDI interface, which was a small box with MIDI jacks and a DBB cable on the end of it. I don't know how many parameters were available through MIDI control, and I'll bet that a lot of the control was SysEx-only, but it was available at one time, so there's probably a few of them still around. I've seen '60s for sale with the interface. Regards, -BW -- Bruce Wahler Design Consultant Ashby Solutions" www.ashbysolutions.com CloneWheel Support Group moderator 978.386.7389 voice 978.776.0096 fax bruce@...
2001-03-10 by leo
Bruce and Ray, Just to add something here the connector type called 'DCB' Roland have a unit called MD8 and it is a Midi to Dcb and DCB to Midi converter box. the features are very limited: all 16 midi channel note on note off . ( maby sustain ?) fully polyphonic . the only synths that can use it are: Jupiter-8 and Juno-60. I've got a MD-8 box to control my JP-8a ( a is for the DCB connector...) I don't think that it does anything else but I may be wrong. Leo Bruce Wahler wrote:
> > Ray, > > >Juno-60 with midi adapter ? it's a CV unit right ? so you mean > >something like Kenton Midi->CV converter ? How does it work ? > >I mean - does it control many different params by MIDI or it > >only basic note info or what ? > > No, I don't believe that the Juno-60 was a CV synth. It had a proprietary, > pre-MIDI digital interface, with a connector that looked a bit (physically) > like a Centronics printer interface; I think Roland called it 'DBB' or > something. Some of the other Roland synths of the same era might have used > the same method, I'm not sure. Anyway, after MIDI came out, Roland > released a DBB-to-MIDI interface, which was a small box with MIDI jacks and > a DBB cable on the end of it. I don't know how many parameters were > available through MIDI control, and I'll bet that a lot of the control was > SysEx-only, but it was available at one time, so there's probably a few of > them still around. I've seen '60s for sale with the interface. > > Regards, > > -BW > > -- > Bruce Wahler > Design Consultant > Ashby Solutions" > www.ashbysolutions.com > CloneWheel Support Group moderator > 978.386.7389 voice > 978.776.0096 fax > bruce@... > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2001-03-10 by leo
Ray, I don't remember exactly but this tech told me that they fixed some bugs and put in a smoother filter and arp sync etc. I never had a 'Pulse' so I can't compare them. Waldorf saying that it is the same unit but do you remember back in the 80's Roland said that all Super-Jupiter are the same ? well, that is not the truth, My older version Super-Jupiter sounds much better/punchy/warmer and with a cool distorted filter Vs my other/newer Version super-Jp that I sold after 2 months. about the Pulse/An1x, what I meant was that while the Pulse plus is a mono 1 voice synth the AN1x can play 10 voices... but the Pulse has real analog VCO's and that is the most crucial difference in favore of the pulse. and... from all the VA's out there only 2 make sence to me the AN1X and the Prophecy. I tried all the VA synths and they just didn't do it for me. the AN1X and the Prophecy ( not the board in the Trinity..) are pure classic VA synths. by the way, I'm waiting for the Andromeda to come out, I hope that Roland Korg and Yamaha will learn a lesson from Alesis and move their asses toward crating a great Analog contest. It is up to us the customers to buy Analog again, and from reading the manual of the Alesis A-6 Andromeda I can already say that there is not a single synth on this planet Analog Digital or VA that even come close to the sheer power of this synthesizer. you will be able to run synths/audio thru its stereo analog input. ( the oulse has a mono in only ) Now, take a AN1x and run it in stereo thru the Alesis filters... Leo RayMaxer wrote:
> > Hm , Leo - like what ? (about new features on Plus compared to usual Pulse ?) > I agree - I LOVE the sound of AN-1x and the wya you can shape .. > it's really great to have EQ in it btw , and FeedBack thingy is VERY important > in having sounds a bit different to simple analog models .. > insert fx are cool , and I LOVE the chorus in AN-1x ! (Compared to VIRUS chorus > f.e.) > Ray. > > leo wrote: > > > Hey Tom > > I've got also the Pulse plus > > It is a great synth but it is Mono > > while the AN1X is poly like 10 mono synths ! > > The Pulse plus sounds a little like my minimoog but different > > it is capable of being too phat -if it's possible. > > as it have 3 analog VCO's/oscilators. > > I wish it had all sliders and polyphony. > > In my hubmble view, > > the AN1x sounds totaly unique and can compete > > every day with any other synth on cool sounds. > > It is one of the best VA I have ever heard. > > > > by the way, > > after talking to a tech, > > I found out that there are some features and upgrades on the pulse plus > > not available on the regular pulse. > > > > Leo > > > > Tom Eales wrote: > > > > > > Someone wanted to know about the waldorf pulse, I have > > > got a pulse plus which is the same with cv outs and an > > > audio in and it is my favourite bit of kit, the > > > sounds are quite raw and analogue ranging to crystal > > > clear lead sounds, and the best thing is the random > > > patch generator between programmes 0 and 99, it is > > > really good, sounds are fat and editing is very clear > > > and easy.I actually prefer it to my an1x-sorry, > > > eventhough that has a broader range of applications > > > with the editor.If u don't have a pulse, buy one now. > > > Or try the waldorf ppg wave plug in instrument, it is > > > mindblowing, so is the mercury 1 actually, the first > > > proper virtual instruments! > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- > http://www.mp3.com/raymaxer - full tracks and CD ! > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2001-03-10 by leo
Hey Paul,
I just looked at the Waldorf site and got your email in the same time...
They are saying the same thing:
CV In
Gate In
CV 1 Out
CV 2 Out
Gate Out
Audio In
http://www.waldorf-music.de/pulse/pulseplus.html
http://www.waldorf-music.de/pulse/pulse.html
however,
this tech had nothing to lie about and I remember him saying to me after
being at an AES show that there are other diffrences in the operating
system and some changes to the filter.
I realy don't care at this point as I do have the Pulse plus
but you might be right about that.
never believe to rumors.
in any case,
the Pulse plus is a real plus to have.
do you know of any 'patch' sharing site ?
Leo
Paul Nagle wrote:> > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:58:56 -0700, leo <tubeman@...> wrote: > > >Ray, > >I don't remember exactly but this tech told me that > >they fixed some bugs and put in a smoother filter and arp sync etc. > >I never had a 'Pulse' so I can't compare them. > > This tech was wrong. The differences are: built in MIDI/CV convertor, > can be driven from CV also, plus input to the filter. > > Paul > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2001-03-10 by Paul Nagle
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:58:56 -0700, leo <tubeman@...> wrote: >Ray, >I don't remember exactly but this tech told me that >they fixed some bugs and put in a smoother filter and arp sync etc. >I never had a 'Pulse' so I can't compare them. This tech was wrong. The differences are: built in MIDI/CV convertor, can be driven from CV also, plus input to the filter. Paul
2001-03-11 by Paul Nagle
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:30:08 -0700, leo <tubeman@...> wrote: >this tech had nothing to lie about and I remember him saying to me after >being at an AES show that there are other diffrences in the operating >system and some changes to the filter. >I realy don't care at this point as I do have the Pulse plus At one point, I had three Pulses here (when I was beta testing OS2 with polyphonic capabilities) and my initial Pulse (the first model in the UK) *did* sound different - it always has. Like any analogue you will get variations, however my Pulse plus and the newest Pulse I received sounded pretty much the same. If you want to talk about the OS in detail, we should probably do it offline. >do you know of any 'patch' sharing site ? There are some of my naff patches at my site - made when I first got it. Thesedays, I program it exclusively from a Doepfer Drehbank and thus the patches only live in Cubase songs as a burst of controller data at the start of a track. Some good stuff, especially by Rob Papen at Waldorf's FTP site. Paul