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Can someone help me ? I need a MIDI interface that work well in 
windows 2000. The midiman series seems very shitty, don't support 
Win2000, Yamaha and Roland too! Can i find a midi interface (USB or 
serial) that procide Windows2000 drivers!???

thanks

With a USB midi interface, i don't need to install drivers ? It's a 
driver-free technology ??? Drivers are only for serial and parallel 
interface ? Will a "Midiman USB" or other USB Midi inferface work in 
Windows 2000 ?

jean-seb

--- In AN1x-list@y..., Roland van Oorschot  <rolando@c...> wrote:
> >===== Original Message From jsbedard@h... =====
> >Can someone help me ? I need a MIDI interface that work well in
> >windows 2000. The midiman series seems very shitty, don't support
> >Win2000, Yamaha and Roland too! Can i find a midi interface (USB or
> >serial) that procide Windows2000 drivers!???
> 
> To clear things up:
> I've got a MidiMan Portman 2x4 and works absolutly fine with my 
Roland & 
> Yamaha gear.
> MidiMan support told me that there will be no Win2000 drivers for 
my PortMan 
> 2x4 though :(
> So I'm stuck with Win98 or ME.
> 
> Who told you that MidiMan is shitty? I read a test of Midi-
interfaces not so 
> long ago and Midiman was one of the best and I'm happy with mine.
> 
> Anyway, Windows 2000 supports USB so buy an USB midiport.
> When those USB ports where introduced, people where a bit sceptic 
about the 
> speed-performance but I hear no negative words about that anymore.
> 
> That's my humble opinion and maybe there are some guys/gals on this 
list who 

> can fill us in about those USB<>speed stories.
> 
> R.
> 
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> f:un[x]iun
> 
> http://funxiun.2y.net
> http://www.mp3.com/scout303
> ---

>===== Original Message From jsbedard@... =====
>Can someone help me ? I need a MIDI interface that work well in
>windows 2000. The midiman series seems very shitty, don't support
>Win2000, Yamaha and Roland too! Can i find a midi interface (USB or
>serial) that procide Windows2000 drivers!???

To clear things up:
I've got a MidiMan Portman 2x4 and works absolutly fine with my Roland & 
Yamaha gear.
MidiMan support told me that there will be no Win2000 drivers for my PortMan 
2x4 though :(
So I'm stuck with Win98 or ME.

Who told you that MidiMan is shitty? I read a test of Midi-interfaces not so 
long ago and Midiman was one of the best and I'm happy with mine.

Anyway, Windows 2000 supports USB so buy an USB midiport.
When those USB ports where introduced, people where a bit sceptic about the 
speed-performance but I hear no negative words about that anymore.

That's my humble opinion and maybe there are some guys/gals on this list who 
can fill us in about those USB<>speed stories.

R.

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http://funxiun.2y.net
http://www.mp3.com/scout303
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>===== Original Message From jsbedard@... =====
>With a USB midi interface, i don't need to install drivers ? It's a
>driver-free technology ??? Drivers are only for serial and parallel
>interface ?

No, USB is not a driver-free technology. You still have to install drivers.

>Will a "Midiman USB" or other USB Midi inferface work in
>Windows 2000 ?
>
Windows 2000 supports USB, so when your Midi-interface manufacturer supplies 
Win2000 drivers, you're in.
Itsasimple! ;-)

I haven't checked the Midiman site (www.midiman.net) about the Win2k support 
yet. But if you've got nothing to do, you can do it yourself :)

R.

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http://www.mp3.com/scout303
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Damn ±@£¢¤ I can't understand how companies like Yamaha or Roland 
don't develop their drivers on NT or 2000 platform. What the hell is 
the probleme with that. If you develop a driver for 98/ME/95, it's 
not really hard to make the same thing for NT !!! arggght it's so 
cheezy.

--- In AN1x-list@y..., Roland van Oorschot  <rolando@c...> wrote:
> >===== Original Message From jsbedard@h... =====
> >With a USB midi interface, i don't need to install drivers ? It's a
> >driver-free technology ??? Drivers are only for serial and parallel
> >interface ?
> 
> No, USB is not a driver-free technology. You still have to install 
drivers.
> 
> >Will a "Midiman USB" or other USB Midi inferface work in
> >Windows 2000 ?
> >
> Windows 2000 supports USB, so when your Midi-interface manufacturer 
supplies 
> Win2000 drivers, you're in.
> Itsasimple! ;-)
> 
> I haven't checked the Midiman site (www.midiman.net) about the 
Win2k support 

> yet. But if you've got nothing to do, you can do it yourself :)
> 
> R.
> 
> ---
> f:un[x]iun
> 
> http://funxiun.2y.net
> http://www.mp3.com/scout303
> ---

At 16:30 09-02-2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Damn ±@£¢¤ I can't understand how companies like Yamaha or Roland
>don't develop their drivers on NT or 2000 platform. What the hell is
>the probleme with that.

Yamaha nor Roland (read: synthesizer-manufacturers) have nothing to do with 
that.
It's the midi-interface manufacturer who's to blame.

>If you develop a driver for 98/ME/95, it's
>not really hard to make the same thing for NT !!! arggght it's so
>cheezy.

I did some programming, and yes, it is hard.
The structure of Windows 9x is totally different than Windows NT based 
platforms. It might have the same GUI but internally it's a whole other story.

R.


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http://www.mp3.com/scout303

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--- In AN1x-list@y..., Roland van Oorschot <rolando@c...> wrote:
> At 16:30 09-02-2001 +0000, you wrote:
> >Damn ±@£¢€ I can't understand how companies like Yamaha or Roland
> >don't develop their drivers on NT or 2000 platform. What the hell is
> >the probleme with that.
> 
> Yamaha nor Roland (read: synthesizer-manufacturers) have nothing to do wi=
th 
> that.
> It's the midi-interface manufacturer who's to blame.
> 
> >If you develop a driver for 98/ME/95, it's
> >not really hard to make the same thing for NT !!! arggght it's so
> >cheezy.
> 
> I did some programming, and yes, it is hard.
> The structure of Windows 9x is totally different than Windows NT based 
> platforms. It might have the same GUI but internally it's a whole other s=
tory.
> 
> R.
> 

Correct me if I'm mistaken but, doesn't Microsoft market Win95/98/ME as 
'consumer' products where as NT and 2K are considered coportate 
solutions? Is this accurate? If so, wouldn't it make sense for 
companies such as MIDIMAN to assume the larger number of potential 
customers would use 95/98/ME - not NT/2K? As Roland implied the time & 
effort spent on developing drivers for each 'platform' - even though it 
all Windows - requires some effort (and costs money too!) Are they 
going to sell enough units to develop/test/qa for each of Win95/98/ME/
NT/2K?

Make sense?

Jon

p.s. - I noticed that Echo Audio *appears* to be on a 6-month schedule 
for releasing updated Mac ASIO drivers for their products. I just 
downloaded their latest. Funny how they seem to be in a perpetual Beta 
'state'. Think they'll ever have the nerve to "commit" to a supported 
release level! haha ha ha ;-)

I have a midiman (midisport) 4 x 4 which I use under win 2000.  It doesn't
give me any trouble.

----- Original Message -----

From: <jsbedard@...>
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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: [AN1x-list] Midi Interfaces in Win2000 ??


> Can someone help me ? I need a MIDI interface that work well in
> windows 2000. The midiman series seems very shitty, don't support
> Win2000, Yamaha and Roland too! Can i find a midi interface (USB or
> serial) that procide Windows2000 drivers!???
>
> thanks
>
>
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Hey,
Instead of arguing  - do this:

If you have a problem with windows,
Open a new directory
install the windows 95-98 there.
upon turning on your PC,
pause at dos,
Go to the new directory and start windows 95-98
I've seen it work before.

just a little thought.
that's it.

Ciao