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RE: [AN1x-list] problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-12 by Mario Xavier Alvarez Tajes

Maybe this link is usefull for you.

http://www.jdlx-musique.com/support/an1x/tt_midiclk.htm
<http://www.jdlx-musique.com/support/an1x/tt_midiclk.htm>

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Gerry Bolda [mailto:tam_ger@...]
Enviado el: Viernes, 12 de Enero de 2001 07:01 p.m.
Para: AN1x-list@egroups.com
Asunto: [AN1x-list] problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq function

This should be an easy fix, but here's what's going on.
I have a midi clock signal from either cakewalk or my 505 going into
the AN1x. In order to play a sequence on the anx i reduce the midi
tempo switch all the way down until it reads "midi". Now if press
any of the keys the arp or seq I get a single note, but no sequence.

Yes i have the receive channel set to the correct setting, (not that
it should matter for a clock signal)

The only way i can get it to work is by shutting off the power and
restarting. The settings remain, but now i can play a sequence in
time.

Has anyone had this problem? Is there a work around?

Thanks

Gerry

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Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-13 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com

Hello Gerry,

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Mario Xavier Alvarez Tajes <xavier@i...>
wrote:

> Maybe this link is usefull for you.
>
> http://www.jdlx-musique.com/support/an1x/tt_midiclk.htm
> <http://www.jdlx-musique.com/support/an1x/tt_midiclk.htm>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Gerry Bolda [mailto:tam_ger@h...]
> Enviado el: Viernes, 12 de Enero de 2001 07:01 p.m.
> Para: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Asunto: [AN1x-list] problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq function
>
>
> This should be an easy fix, but here's what's going on.
> I have a midi clock signal from either cakewalk or my 505 going into
> the AN1x. In order to play a sequence on the anx i reduce the midi
> tempo switch all the way down until it reads "midi". Now if press
> any of the keys the arp or seq I get a single note, but no sequence.

That's normal behaviour for the AN1x. When you set the AN1x to
synchronize to MIDI Clock the AN1x has to be receiving the MIDI Clock
signal for the ARP/SEQ to trigger at Note On. Truth be told, I find it
annoying behavior too :-/ Same goes for the fact the ARP/SEQ won't
trigger with LOCAL=OFF. *sigh*

If I'm not mistaken, Ed has a pet peeve that there is no provision to
stop/start the ARP/SEQ Hold from an external controller (other than the
front panel button.) On the plus side, at least each scene in a voice
can have seperate trigger options - that lets you create splits or
layers with some flexibility. Overall, I like the ARP/SEQ - but Yamaha
did overlook a couple of "niceties", IMO.

>
> Yes i have the receive channel set to the correct setting, (not that
> it should matter for a clock signal)
>
> The only way i can get it to work is by shutting off the power and
> restarting. The settings remain, but now i can play a sequence in
> time.

After you changed the tempor to MIDI, and before powering off, did you
*save* your AN1x Voice? Remember, the tempo parameter is saved at the
voice level - NOT globally. From your description I would hazard a
guess that the ARP/SEQ is triggering at the previous tempo not to MIDI
clock - easy enough to double check.

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>
> Has anyone had this problem? Is there a work around?
>

HTH

regards,
Jon

Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-13 by Reggie

In article <93obg4+5cog@...>, jondl@... writes

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>If I'm not mistaken, Ed has a pet peeve that there is no provision to
>stop/start the ARP/SEQ Hold from an external controller (other than the
>front panel button.) On the plus side, at least each scene in a voice
>can have seperate trigger options - that lets you create splits or
>layers with some flexibility. Overall, I like the ARP/SEQ - but Yamaha
>did overlook a couple of "niceties", IMO.

Why can't you control the arp/seq externally? Do it via sysex.

--
Reggie

Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-13 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Reggie <reggie@t...> wrote:

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> In article <93obg4+5cog@e...>, jondl@j... writes
> >If I'm not mistaken, Ed has a pet peeve that there is no provision to
> >stop/start the ARP/SEQ Hold from an external controller (other than the
> >front panel button.) On the plus side, at least each scene in a voice
> >can have seperate trigger options - that lets you create splits or
> >layers with some flexibility. Overall, I like the ARP/SEQ - but Yamaha
> >did overlook a couple of "niceties", IMO.
> Why can't you control the arp/seq externally? Do it via sysex.
>

Yes, that's an idea but that's not quite the solution in mind. A
physical controller - best a MIDI CC assiginment to FC (Foot
Controller) is whats needed - not SysEx. Furthermore, MIDI CC is much
more efficient than SysEx which eats up a considerable amount of MIDI
bandwidth - and the AN1x is already top heavy when it comes to SysEx ;-
)

Jon

Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-14 by Reggie

In article <93ornn+7d9p@...>, jondl@... writes

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>Yes, that's an idea but that's not quite the solution in mind. A
>physical controller - best a MIDI CC assiginment to FC (Foot Controller)
>is whats needed - not SysEx. Furthermore, MIDI CC is much more efficient
>than SysEx which eats up a considerable amount of MIDI bandwidth - and
>the AN1x is already top heavy when it comes to SysEx ;-
>)

Heavy on the Sysex, Yeah, Don't I f@*king know it, I know haven't
released them yet, I will as soon as Yamaha have them, but I programmed
10 VST 5 scripts to control the An1x internally, that was heavy going
especially as the Scripting isn't fully functional yet (Some commands
don't work in VST 5.01)

I do know that sysex is heavy on midi bandwidth, but I thought you had
already explored the CC route, I have been studying the An1x Sysex data
and the only way to change arp/Seq parameters is Via sysex, it is the
only solution.

See ya,

--
Reggie

Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-14 by Paul Murphy

Hey Reggie,

You havent released the scripts yet ?

Id be interested to try them once they are.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Reggie <reggie@...>
To: <An1x-list@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq
fun ction

> In article <93ornn+7d9p@...>, jondl@... writes
> >Yes, that's an idea but that's not quite the solution in mind. A
> >physical controller - best a MIDI CC assiginment to FC (Foot Controller)
> >is whats needed - not SysEx. Furthermore, MIDI CC is much more efficient
> >than SysEx which eats up a considerable amount of MIDI bandwidth - and
> >the AN1x is already top heavy when it comes to SysEx ;-
> >)
>
> Heavy on the Sysex, Yeah, Don't I f@*king know it, I know haven't
> released them yet, I will as soon as Yamaha have them, but I programmed
> 10 VST 5 scripts to control the An1x internally, that was heavy going
> especially as the Scripting isn't fully functional yet (Some commands
> don't work in VST 5.01)
>
> I do know that sysex is heavy on midi bandwidth, but I thought you had
> already explored the CC route, I have been studying the An1x Sysex data
> and the only way to change arp/Seq parameters is Via sysex, it is the
> only solution.
>
> See ya,
>
> --
> Reggie
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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-14 by Reggie

I must apologise for their lateness, Ralph thought I was trying to get
people to beg for them, but Due to some unforeseen circumstances I am
not yet able to release them, but please bear with me, It will be very
soon, I am a little frustrated myself at the situation. I don't know
where I heard it, But VST 5.02 will be released at the end of this
coming week (19th Jan), Hopefully there is an update to the Midi Track
Mixer which will allow me to refine the scripts further, Don't worry
though, I'll release the scripts then rewrite them with the extra
functions!!

In article <000701c07dc6$4e294ce0$0641a4cb@...>
, Paul Murphy <merfman@...> writes

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>Hey Reggie,
>
>You havent released the scripts yet ?
>
>Id be interested to try them once they are.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Reggie <reggie@...>
>To: <An1x-list@egroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq
>fun ction
>
>
>> In article <93ornn+7d9p@...>, jondl@... writes
>> >Yes, that's an idea but that's not quite the solution in mind. A
>> >physical controller - best a MIDI CC assiginment to FC (Foot Controller)
>> >is whats needed - not SysEx. Furthermore, MIDI CC is much more efficient
>> >than SysEx which eats up a considerable amount of MIDI bandwidth - and
>> >the AN1x is already top heavy when it comes to SysEx ;-
>> >)
>>
>> Heavy on the Sysex, Yeah, Don't I f@*king know it, I know haven't
>> released them yet, I will as soon as Yamaha have them, but I programmed
>> 10 VST 5 scripts to control the An1x internally, that was heavy going
>> especially as the Scripting isn't fully functional yet (Some commands
>> don't work in VST 5.01)
>>
>> I do know that sysex is heavy on midi bandwidth, but I thought you had
>> already explored the CC route, I have been studying the An1x Sysex data
>> and the only way to change arp/Seq parameters is Via sysex, it is the
>> only solution.
>>
>> See ya,
>>
>> --
>> Reggie
>>
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RE: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-15 by Mario Xavier Alvarez Tajes

Sorry but what is CC route and MIDI CC?

Thanks!!!

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Reggie [mailto:reggie@...]
Enviado el: S�bado, 13 de Enero de 2001 09:14 p.m.
Para: An1x-list@egroups.com
Asunto: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq
fun ction

In article <93ornn+7d9p@...>, jondl@... writes

>Yes, that's an idea but that's not quite the solution in mind. A
>physical controller - best a MIDI CC assiginment to FC (Foot Controller)
>is whats needed - not SysEx. Furthermore, MIDI CC is much more efficient
>than SysEx which eats up a considerable amount of MIDI bandwidth - and
>the AN1x is already top heavy when it comes to SysEx ;-
>)

Heavy on the Sysex, Yeah, Don't I f@*king know it, I know haven't
released them yet, I will as soon as Yamaha have them, but I programmed
10 VST 5 scripts to control the An1x internally, that was heavy going
especially as the Scripting isn't fully functional yet (Some commands
don't work in VST 5.01)

I do know that sysex is heavy on midi bandwidth, but I thought you had
already explored the CC route, I have been studying the An1x Sysex data
and the only way to change arp/Seq parameters is Via sysex, it is the
only solution.

See ya,

--
Reggie

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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-15 by Reggie

In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7C7@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier
Alvarez Tajes <xavier@...> writes

>Sorry but what is CC route and MIDI CC?

In this case you could substitute route for options, that might
translate better, it isn't really anything to worry about.

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>I do know that sysex is heavy on midi bandwidth, but I thought you had
>already explored the CC route

And CC's are Continuos Controllers, they are a way of controlling
various functions on a synth, You can also use programmable Midi
Controllers (a Box with Faders or knobs) to send CCs or Draw them into
your midi sequencer to do volume fades and Filter sweeps or control midi
Effects etc. The AN1x allows you to assign CC's to Functions via the
Matrix and control them from the knobs on the keyboard, very nice.

--
Reggie

RE: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-15 by Mario Xavier Alvarez Tajes

Thanks, this is a nice good group, every question I've made, I allways
get the answer, thaks for all of you. I hope when I learn more do the same
with the others. :D

So the Phat-boy box is a MIDI CC?

Thanks Reggie!!!!

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Reggie [mailto:reggie@...]
Enviado el: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 06:00 p.m.
Para: An1x-list@egroups.com
Asunto: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq
fun ction

In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7C7@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier
Alvarez Tajes <xavier@...> writes

>Sorry but what is CC route and MIDI CC?

In this case you could substitute route for options, that might
translate better, it isn't really anything to worry about.

>I do know that sysex is heavy on midi bandwidth, but I thought you had
>already explored the CC route

And CC's are Continuos Controllers, they are a way of controlling
various functions on a synth, You can also use programmable Midi
Controllers (a Box with Faders or knobs) to send CCs or Draw them into
your midi sequencer to do volume fades and Filter sweeps or control midi
Effects etc. The AN1x allows you to assign CC's to Functions via the
Matrix and control them from the knobs on the keyboard, very nice.

--
Reggie

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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-15 by Reggie

In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7C9@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier
Alvarez Tajes <xavier@...> writes

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> Thanks, this is a nice good group, every question I've made, I allways
>get the answer, thaks for all of you. I hope when I learn more do the same
>with the others. :D
>
> So the Phat-boy box is a MIDI CC?
>
>Thanks Reggie!!!!

No the Phat boy is a £150 UKP Hardware device that has Knobs on it that
are assigned to CC's, it has 5 or 6 preset banks that can output a lot
of CC's, there is a Specific option for PLG AN/AN1x as well, it assigns
all the knobs to the control matrix, Nice.

--
Reggie

RE: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-16 by Mario Xavier Alvarez Tajes

So, when you asiggn controlers in the control matrix to the modulation wheel
or a knob, ribbon you are using MIDI CC and thats all. And you can also use
it to control other synthetiser or program, for example Rebirth or a VST
instrument?

Max

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Reggie [mailto:reggie@...]
Enviado el: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 08:06 p.m.
Para: An1x-list@egroups.com
Asunto: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq
fun ction

In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7C9@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier
Alvarez Tajes <xavier@...> writes

> Thanks, this is a nice good group, every question I've made, I allways
>get the answer, thaks for all of you. I hope when I learn more do the same
>with the others. :D
>
> So the Phat-boy box is a MIDI CC?
>
>Thanks Reggie!!!!

No the Phat boy is a £150 UKP Hardware device that has Knobs on it that
are assigned to CC's, it has 5 or 6 preset banks that can output a lot
of CC's, there is a Specific option for PLG AN/AN1x as well, it assigns
all the knobs to the control matrix, Nice.

--
Reggie

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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-16 by Reggie

Yes, I think so.

In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7CB@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier
Alvarez Tajes <xavier@...> writes

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>So, when you asiggn controlers in the control matrix to the modulation wheel
>or a knob, ribbon you are using MIDI CC and thats all. And you can also use
>it to control other synthetiser or program, for example Rebirth or a VST
>instrument?
>
>Max
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: Reggie [mailto:reggie@...]
>Enviado el: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 08:06 p.m.
>Para: An1x-list@egroups.com
>Asunto: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq
>fun ction
>
>
>In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7C9@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier
>Alvarez Tajes <xavier@...> writes
>> Thanks, this is a nice good group, every question I've made, I allways
>>get the answer, thaks for all of you. I hope when I learn more do the same
>>with the others. :D
>>
>> So the Phat-boy box is a MIDI CC?
>>
>>Thanks Reggie!!!!
>
>No the Phat boy is a £150 UKP Hardware device that has Knobs on it that
>are assigned to CC's, it has 5 or 6 preset banks that can output a lot
>of CC's, there is a Specific option for PLG AN/AN1x as well, it assigns
>all the knobs to the control matrix, Nice.
>

--
Reggie

Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and seq fun ction

2001-01-17 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com

Remember that MIDI CC assignments made in the Ctrl Matrix (under the
VOICE/SCENE SETUP menu) affect only the internal tone generator - MIDI
CC assignments made using Ctrl Device & Ctrl No. (under the UTILITY/
SETUP) menu are transmitted via the MIDI Out to external gear.

Jon

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--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Reggie <reggie@t...> wrote:
> Yes, I think so.
>
>
> In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7CB@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier
> Alvarez Tajes <xavier@i...> writes
> >So, when you asiggn controlers in the control matrix to the modulation w=
heel
> >or a knob, ribbon you are using MIDI CC and thats all. And you can also =
use
> >it to control other synthetiser or program, for example Rebirth or a VST=

> >instrument?
> >
> >Max
> >
> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >De: Reggie [mailto:reggie@t...]
> >Enviado el: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 08:06 p.m.
> >Para: An1x-list@egroups.com
> >Asunto: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: problem with midi synch for the arpeg and se=
q
> >fun ction
> >
> >
> >In article <11EA0546AC88D3118C3200104B89CD5006E7C9@TGMNT2>, Mario Xavier=

> >Alvarez Tajes <xavier@i...> writes
> >> Thanks, this is a nice good group, every question I've made, I allw=
ays
> >>get the answer, thaks for all of you. I hope when I learn more do the s=
ame
> >>with the others. :D
> >>
> >> So the Phat-boy box is a MIDI CC?
> >>
> >>Thanks Reggie!!!!
> >
> >No the Phat boy is a £150 UKP Hardware device that has Knobs on it that
> >are assigned to CC's, it has 5 or 6 preset banks that can output a lot
> >of CC's, there is a Specific option for PLG AN/AN1x as well, it assigns
> >all the knobs to the control matrix, Nice.
> >
>
> --
> Reggie