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Looks like I am finally going to have to buy a proper MIDI interface for
my PC

People recommend the Midiman Midisport range, specifically external
units like the 4X4 (four MIDI ins and four outs), and also the 8X8

But both products are connected via USB.  I am wary of using USB as a
MIDI interface having seen various brief mentions of such a setup on the
WWW, most or all saying that USB is not ideal for MIDI ...... though I
can't quite remember why!

I can't imagine that a company like Midiman would produce a turkey
product, but want to hear from list members before I go out and blow UK
pounds 130 (for the 4X4) on something that might not be quite right

Any comments/speculation?

AND any suggestions of alternative products which would do the job?

Chris Stone

I have the 2x2 USB from Midiman, it's a great little device, I feel sorry I
didnt buy the 2x4 or whatever it is since I'm short on midi outs now....
supposedly the usb-midimans donw work with win ME...and I've heard claims of
errenous timing. Neither is the case with me, as mine's a tight as a virgin.

Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards,

Bastiaan van de Werk
----- Original Message -----

From: C Stone <chris.stone@...>
To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:07 PM
Subject: [AN1x-list] USB - any good as a MIDI port interface?


> Looks like I am finally going to have to buy a proper MIDI interface for
> my PC
>
> People recommend the Midiman Midisport range, specifically external
> units like the 4X4 (four MIDI ins and four outs), and also the 8X8
>
> But both products are connected via USB.  I am wary of using USB as a
> MIDI interface having seen various brief mentions of such a setup on the
> WWW, most or all saying that USB is not ideal for MIDI ...... though I
> can't quite remember why!
>
> I can't imagine that a company like Midiman would produce a turkey
> product, but want to hear from list members before I go out and blow UK
> pounds 130 (for the 4X4) on something that might not be quite right
>
> Any comments/speculation?
>
> AND any suggestions of alternative products which would do the job?
>
> Chris Stone
>
>
>
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I had very poor results using the MIDIMAN MIDIsport 2x2 with my 
PowerMac and an ADS Tech USB PCI card.

SysEx data transfers are unreliable, or rather - unpredictable, in 
nearly every app I tried - some apps worse then others. From what I've 
gathered, this is not uncommon with the MIDIsport and USB equipped 
Mac's. I was never able to get AN1xEdit to receive a SysEx dump from my 
AN1x - transmitting to the AN1x from AN1xEdit worked. Gary G. was VERY 
generous with his time and advice as I tried many possible combinations 
of Apple USB drivers to work through the problem. I've had somewhat 
better results with with an Opcode MIDIport 32 but still not as 
reliable as a serial port MIDI Interface. I'm told by another AN1x user 
on the list the Emgaic AMT works well with AN1xEdit. I'm still using my 
good old serial port MIDI Interface and will continue to use it for as 
long as practical. 

I'd be very interested in hearing what results you achieve should you 
purchase one of the newer MIDIMAN MIDI interfaces. The "USB Experience" 
can be quite different for Mac vs. Win users.

HTH

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, C Stone <chris.stone@s...> wrote:

> Looks like I am finally going to have to buy a proper MIDI interface for
> my PC
> 
> People recommend the Midiman Midisport range, specifically external
> units like the 4X4 (four MIDI ins and four outs), and also the 8X8
> 
> But both products are connected via USB.  I am wary of using USB as a
> MIDI interface having seen various brief mentions of such a setup on the
> WWW, most or all saying that USB is not ideal for MIDI ...... though I
> can't quite remember why!
> 
> I can't imagine that a company like Midiman would produce a turkey
> product, but want to hear from list members before I go out and blow UK
> pounds 130 (for the 4X4) on something that might not be quite right
> 
> Any comments/speculation?
> 
> AND any suggestions of alternative products which would do the job?
> 
> Chris Stone

Hi Accuface...

We were just about to get one of those Steinberg 8x midi interfaces...

all we heard was that they were the best you could get...

But thanks for alerting me to this usb timing problem...

I shall investigate the matter further and let you know of my
findings!

tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Marlon J\ufffdrs <M.Juers@...>
To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: AW: [AN1x-list] USB - any good as a MIDI port interface?


> Hi there!
> I got exactly the same problem as Chris. I still hesitate from buying an
> USB-MIDI-Interface. Because of it's described timing and
bandwidth-problems.
>
> Now I heard about the "great" new USB-Midex 8x8-MIDI-Interface  from
> Steinberg wich offers a new technology called LTB-protocol \ufffd which means:
no

> more timing problems. Could this be true with USB? Is'nt still the serial
> port much more accurate than USB? Does anyone of you have made any own
> experiences with it or can tell me, where I can read tests or comparisons
> about it. Please help!!!
>
> Thanks and kind regards
>
>
> Accuface
>
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Just bought a usb midi sport 4x4, i'm running win 98se cakewalk 8.0  
Can't connect due to a usb/pci problem.  I'll post some comments as 
soon as i'm up and running.

Gerry



> 
> We were just about to get one of those Steinberg 8x midi 
interfaces...
> 
> all we heard was that they were the best you could get...
> 
> But thanks for alerting me to this usb timing problem...
> 
> I shall investigate the matter further and let you know of my
> findings!
> 
> tom
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marlon Jürs <M.Juers@w...>
> To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:51 PM
> Subject: AW: [AN1x-list] USB - any good as a MIDI port interface?
> 
> 
> > Hi there!
> > I got exactly the same problem as Chris. I still hesitate from 
buying an
> > USB-MIDI-Interface. Because of it's described timing and
> bandwidth-problems.
> >
> > Now I heard about the "great" new USB-Midex 8x8-MIDI-Interface  
from
> > Steinberg wich offers a new technology called LTB-protocol ­ which 
means:
> no
> > more timing problems. Could this be true with USB? Is'nt still 
the serial
> > port much more accurate than USB? Does anyone of you have made 
any own
> > experiences with it or can tell me, where I can read tests or 
comparisons

> > about it. Please help!!!
> >
> > Thanks and kind regards
> >
> >
> > Accuface
> >
> > Community email addresses:
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> >