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AN1x assign question

AN1x assign question

2000-12-12 by James Ellemore

I need some assistance with the following.

How can I set my an1x assign knobs to controll filter cutoff & res for my E-mu e5000 ultra sampler? Is anyone else using this combo? The sequencer I am using is logic audio 4.Can I also set the assign knobs to control the fx on the e5000.

Any assistance would be great.

jim


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Re: AN1x assign question

2000-12-14 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com

Hello Jim,

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "James Ellemore" <J_ellemore@h...>
wrote:
> I need some assistance with the following.
>
> How can I set my an1x assign knobs to controll filter cutoff & res
for my E-mu e5000 ultra sampler? Is anyone else using this combo? The
sequencer I am using is logic audio 4.Can I also set the assign knobs
to control the fx on the e5000.

On the AN1x, from the UTILITY/SETUP menu, use the rocker button
beneath 'Ctrl Device' to select which Real Time Controller you wish to
use, i.e., MW, or RBNX, or Knob 1, etc. Then, use the rocker button
beneath 'Ctrl No.' to assign a MIDI Change Control message between 1 -
95. MIDI CC #074 is Typically used for Filter Cutoff (sometimes called
Brightness) and MIDI CC #071 for Resonance (or Harmonic Content.)
Once these assignments are made they will transmitted on the base 'MIDI
Tx Ch' - and will be rechanneled accordingly to the currently selected
track within Logic. At least, that's how it suppose to work ;-)

In my set-up I use the AN1x as a master keyboard for my ASR-X Pro
sampler. Typically, I have Assign Knob 5 set to MIDI CC #074 for
Filter Cutoff and Assign Knob 6 set to MIDI CC #077 for Resonance. I
know that I just said MIDI CC #071 is typically used for Resonance but
my ASR-X requires #077 for resonance NOT #071. The point being - check
the MIDI Implementation chart in the reference manual for your E5000 to
confirm MIDI CC # mappings. Ensoniq deviated from the std MIDI CC #
mappings in the ASR-X - that's all :-)

Regarding the FX control in your E5K - I don't know what real time
mappings are available to the internal E5K FX. It's been awhile since
I glanced at the E5K PDF on the E-mu web site but I _think_ you can
control no more than one parameter at a time on the E5K FX from a
MIDI CC # of your choice (don't quote me on that.) Again, in my set-up,
I use Assign Knob 4 set to MIDI CC #012 to control the FX on my ASR-X
sampler. It works well for me. BTW - have you checked out their new
RFX card? Pretty cool (and for a "modest" $795 ha ha ha LOL)

>
> Any assistance would be great.

HTH

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>
> jim

regards,
Jon

Re: [AN1x-list] Re: AN1x assign question

2000-12-18 by zyguli aka Fragile

Ello..
Recently got a4000 and got also some questions about it,tried to get the
info on a5000/a4000 mailing list with nearly no responce... so i'm trying
her, hope you guys wont flame me 8]:

I have got problems with my controller... I use for it my an1x and, i don't
know why, values from controller are accumulated with
the values set up in for eg filter set up (settings like -0 , +127 happen
(but it's not shown of
course). How 2 configure controller or a sampler to have a sampler set the
same value as on the an1x display (0-127) ?
for egzample if filter cutoff is set at 33 then the outside controller can
control parameter in 63 range so the maximum value is 33 + 63 = 96 and the
minimum is 33-63 = - 30... how to make a set up in a way , that no matter
what value is set as a bisic value ( in this case cutoff at 33) i could
allways get 'normal' values from controller ( and that is 0-127), no more,
no less...
i'm not paranoid, it really happens this way; it's heard at best at band
pass and high pass filters get values higher than 127 and lower than 0...
there's no problem with controlling, when basic value in sampler is 64 ...
but i don't want my sampler values be always at 64... it sucks..
just want to controll parameters in 'direct' way ( like it is on an1x)..

thx for answers & respect



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> Hello Jim,
>
> --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "James Ellemore" <J_ellemore@h...>
> wrote:
> > I need some assistance with the following.
> >
> > How can I set my an1x assign knobs to controll filter cutoff & res
> for my E-mu e5000 ultra sampler? Is anyone else using this combo? The
> sequencer I am using is logic audio 4.Can I also set the assign knobs
> to control the fx on the e5000.
>
> On the AN1x, from the UTILITY/SETUP menu, use the rocker button
> beneath 'Ctrl Device' to select which Real Time Controller you wish to
> use, i.e., MW, or RBNX, or Knob 1, etc. Then, use the rocker button
> beneath 'Ctrl No.' to assign a MIDI Change Control message between 1 -
> 95. MIDI CC #074 is Typically used for Filter Cutoff (sometimes called
> Brightness) and MIDI CC #071 for Resonance (or Harmonic Content.)
> Once these assignments are made they will transmitted on the base 'MIDI
> Tx Ch' - and will be rechanneled accordingly to the currently selected
> track within Logic. At least, that's how it suppose to work ;-)
>
> In my set-up I use the AN1x as a master keyboard for my ASR-X Pro
> sampler. Typically, I have Assign Knob 5 set to MIDI CC #074 for
> Filter Cutoff and Assign Knob 6 set to MIDI CC #077 for Resonance. I
> know that I just said MIDI CC #071 is typically used for Resonance but
> my ASR-X requires #077 for resonance NOT #071. The point being - check
> the MIDI Implementation chart in the reference manual for your E5000 to
> confirm MIDI CC # mappings. Ensoniq deviated from the std MIDI CC #
> mappings in the ASR-X - that's all :-)
>
> Regarding the FX control in your E5K - I don't know what real time
> mappings are available to the internal E5K FX. It's been awhile since
> I glanced at the E5K PDF on the E-mu web site but I _think_ you can
> control no more than one parameter at a time on the E5K FX from a
> MIDI CC # of your choice (don't quote me on that.) Again, in my set-up,
> I use Assign Knob 4 set to MIDI CC #012 to control the FX on my ASR-X
> sampler. It works well for me. BTW - have you checked out their new
> RFX card? Pretty cool (and for a "modest" $795 ha ha ha LOL)
>
> >
> > Any assistance would be great.
>
> HTH
>
> >
> > jim
>
> regards,
> Jon
>
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Re: AN1x assign question

2000-12-19 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com

Hello z,
As Peter mentioned, the Teklab A-series forums/mailing are very
active - more so than the eGroups A-Series list. But that list is
still
good for a different perspective now & again :-)

>
> I have got problems with my controller... I use for it my an1x and,
i don't
> know why, values from controller are accumulated with
> the values set up in for eg filter set up (settings like -0 , +127
happen
> (but it's not shown of
> course). How 2 configure controller or a sampler to have a sampler
set the
> same value as on the an1x display (0-127) ?

I think you'll find this behavior is inherent to the 'overide', or
'offset', type of user interface employed on the Yamaha A-Series
Samplers. I have a similar situation with my Ensoniq ASR-X Pro. The
values used at the Track level of the ASR-X are +/- offsets to the
preprogrammed values of the sound assigned to a Track. Therefore, the
following applies in my set-up when transmitting a MIDI CC from an
AN1x
Assign Knob to a sample assigned to an ASR-X Pro track:

AN1X Value of 0 = ASR-X value of -63
AN1X Value of 63 = ASR-X value of 0
AN1X Value of 127 = ASR-X value of +63

It's simply a matter of tweaking your sounds to taste. If I need a
filter sweep more dramatic than the perceived limitation of the +/-
offset then I make certain the base value of my samples sound is near
the freq I wish to sweep from.

On the plus side, the Track overides/offset make short work of
'tweaking' imported sound files from the "old" Ensoniq sample library
format. Sometimes the translation routines don't do a very good job
(about 1 in 10 on average) and I use the +/- offset to adjust the
sound
to taste without having to start a big editing session. Very handy,
IMO. I hope to employ this benefit further when I pick up some Akai
Sample CD's in the New Year :-P


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> just want to controll parameters in 'direct' way ( like it is on
an1x)..

This is true of the AN1x most the time - but keep in mind the Depth
parameter in the Control Matrix can be set to a +, -, or Direct value
when applied to the internal tone generator. You can't reassign this
when tranmitting MIDI CC to an external module :-( Too bad, what a
_cool_ feature that would have been!

If the perceived limitation of the A-Series design _really_ bothers
you
than you may want to take a look at an E-mu or Akai sampler.
Personally, I'm not so bothered by this problem with my Ensoniq as
you've probably guessed by now. For me, the great sound quality and
FX
of the ASR-X outweigh the odd user interface tidbits. Hope you feel
the
same about your A3000 :-)

regards,
Jon