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Fellas:

This morning I turned my An1x on and started going through some 
patches. I hit upon one which had both scenes turned on (so you could 
morph between them). There was a loud intermittent rasping noise, the 
kind you get when your speaker connection is hitting and missing. So 
I thought maybe I had tweaked the patch into some weirdness(sounded 
like a S&H LFO modulating the osc sync) and went to something else, 
but every patch that had both scenes on had this. The sound is loud 
enough that the synth sounds soft by comparison.

Has anybody run into this? Any advice about how to cure it (short of 
sending it to synth hospital)? What are the options for a synth 
hospital other than yamaha?

Thanks for any help you can give.

Jerry

Ok, I fixed it. Fatory initialize didn't help, so I went into test 
mode (O-+ depressed during power-on). That seems to have done the 
trick.

Still, it's a pretty scary thing to have happen. Anyone got any 
insight on why it happens?

Cheers,

Jerry

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Jerry A" <jerrya3@h...> wrote:
> Fellas:
> 
> This morning I turned my An1x on and started going through some 
> patches. I hit upon one which had both scenes turned on (so you 
could 
> morph between them). There was a loud intermittent rasping noise, 
the 
> kind you get when your speaker connection is hitting and missing. 
So 
> I thought maybe I had tweaked the patch into some weirdness(sounded 
> like a S&H LFO modulating the osc sync) and went to something else, 
> but every patch that had both scenes on had this. The sound is loud 
> enough that the synth sounds soft by comparison.
> 
> Has anybody run into this? Any advice about how to cure it (short 
of 

> sending it to synth hospital)? What are the options for a synth 
> hospital other than yamaha?
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give.
> 
> Jerry

Jerry A shared with us:
> 
> This morning I turned my An1x on and started going through some 
> patches. I hit upon one which had both scenes turned on (so you could 
> morph between them). There was a loud intermittent rasping noise, the 
> kind you get when your speaker connection is hitting and missing. So 
> I thought maybe I had tweaked the patch into some weirdness(sounded 
> like a S&H LFO modulating the osc sync) and went to something else, 
> but every patch that had both scenes on had this. The sound is loud 
> enough that the synth sounds soft by comparison.
> 
> Has anybody run into this? Any advice about how to cure it (short of 
> sending it to synth hospital)? What are the options for a synth 
> hospital other than yamaha?

There are a few bugs in the AN1x that only surface after a long
period. I've noticed that the right channel goes off, crackling,
after the unit has been turned on for some time.

At one point, my AN1x became virtually unusable. I had to reset
it to factory defaults, which solved the problem. So, if all else
fails, save your patches and reset the AN1x.

- Peter

?!?! 24 months since I purchased my AN1x and I've never heard this 
happen - good for me, bad for you :-( 

I wonder if it could be related to the now infamous "popping & 
clicking" bug in the audio outputs?  I had this repaired by Yamaha
about three - four months after I bought my AN1x. Are you the original
owner or did you buy it 2nd hand - maybe your warranty is till good?

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Jerry A" <jerrya3@h...> wrote:
> Fellas:
> 
> This morning I turned my An1x on and started going through some 
> patches. I hit upon one which had both scenes turned on (so you
could 
> morph between them). There was a loud intermittent rasping noise,
the 
> kind you get when your speaker connection is hitting and missing.
So 
> I thought maybe I had tweaked the patch into some weirdness(sounded 
> like a S&H LFO modulating the osc sync) and went to something else, 
> but every patch that had both scenes on had this. The sound is loud 
> enough that the synth sounds soft by comparison.
> 
> Has anybody run into this? Any advice about how to cure it (short
of 

> sending it to synth hospital)? What are the options for a synth 
> hospital other than yamaha?
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give.
> 
> Jerry

Hi,

As far as I know, or at least this's how the warranty works here:
if you're the first owner you'll get a full year warranty, BUT, when this
first owner sells the gear, the warranty become useless to anyone (at the
very same time), coz, only the person, who has his name on the original
receipt can ask for this service (but all I can say is that this procedure
is illegal here in Brazil...:-)

Cheers,
PinheadX.

From: <jondl@...>
>  or did you buy it 2nd hand - maybe your warranty is till good?
>
> --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Jerry A" <jerrya3@h...> wrote:
> > This morning I turned my An1x on and started going through some
> > patches. I hit upon one which had both scenes turned on (so you
> could
> > morph between them). There was a loud intermittent rasping noise,
> the
> > kind you get when your speaker connection is hitting and missing.
> So
> > I thought maybe I had tweaked the patch into some weirdness(sounded
> > like a S&H LFO modulating the osc sync) and went to something else,
> > but every patch that had both scenes on had this. The sound is loud
> > enough that the synth sounds soft by comparison.
> >
> > Has anybody run into this? Any advice about how to cure it (short
> of
> > sending it to synth hospital)? What are the options for a synth
> > hospital other than yamaha?
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can give.
> >
> > Jerry

> if you're the first owner you'll get a full year warranty, 

> >  or did you buy it 2nd hand - maybe your warranty is till good?

I have a b-stock machine with a full warranty. However, I don't know 
if I can send it in to have work done, since I haven't been able to 
re-create the problem.

Jon, I did wonder if this was the infamous popping noise. Wasn't 
there an OS version no. associated with this problem? I have v1.02, 
which I thought was the fix for the problem.

Cheers,

Jerry

No, it was not software related - it was a hardware fix.  The details 
of my experience are posted on my web site http://www.jdlx-
musique.com/ The OS update addressed a seperate issue with a popping 
sound in the delay effect when synchronized to MIDI Clock.

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Jerry A" <jerrya3@h...> wrote:
> > if you're the first owner you'll get a full year warranty, 
> 
> > >  or did you buy it 2nd hand - maybe your warranty is till good?
> 
> I have a b-stock machine with a full warranty. However, I don't 
know 

> if I can send it in to have work done, since I haven't been able to 
> re-create the problem.
> 
> Jon, I did wonder if this was the infamous popping noise. Wasn't 
> there an OS version no. associated with this problem? I have v1.02, 
> which I thought was the fix for the problem.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jerry

My AN1x has ver 1.02 of the bios and it still makes popping noises when
cold. I spoke to a Technician from Yamaha Australia about this issue and
it seems to be a design fault. He mentioned that he had to re-route the
grounding from one of the boards internally . Newer versions have been 
modified and don't suffer from this problem. I find that this problem only 
occurs on cold days ,after a few minutes of warming up the popping noises 
disappear.
www.mp3.com/acidone


>From: "kees balde" <c.p.balde@...>
>Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
>To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Horrendous rasping noise
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:50:11 -0800
>
>Well I had this once....and my simple solution: avoid your AN-1x from cold
>places....really I mean it. When I removed it from my "music barn" to the
>living room and let it warm up. My AN-1x didn't have problems anymore....
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <jondl@...>
>To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:59 PM
>Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Horrendous rasping noise
>
>
> > ?!?! 24 months since I purchased my AN1x and I've never heard this
> > happen - good for me, bad for you
>
> >
> > I wonder if it could be related to the now infamous "popping &
> > clicking" bug in the audio outputs?  I had this repaired by Yamaha
> > about three - four months after I bought my AN1x. Are you the original
> > owner or did you buy it 2nd hand - maybe your warranty is till good?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Jerry A" <jerrya3@h...> wrote:
> > > Fellas:
> > >
> > > This morning I turned my An1x on and started going through some
> > > patches. I hit upon one which had both scenes turned on (so you
> > could
> > > morph between them). There was a loud intermittent rasping noise,
> > the
> > > kind you get when your speaker connection is hitting and missing.
> > So
> > > I thought maybe I had tweaked the patch into some weirdness(sounded
> > > like a S&H LFO modulating the osc sync) and went to something else,
> > > but every patch that had both scenes on had this. The sound is loud
> > > enough that the synth sounds soft by comparison.
> > >
> > > Has anybody run into this? Any advice about how to cure it (short
> > of
> > > sending it to synth hospital)? What are the options for a synth
> > > hospital other than yamaha?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help you can give.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Well I had this once....and my simple solution: avoid your AN-1x from cold
places....really I mean it. When I removed it from my "music barn" to the
living room and let it warm up. My AN-1x didn't have problems anymore....


----- Original Message -----

From: <jondl@...>
To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:59 PM
Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Horrendous rasping noise


> ?!?! 24 months since I purchased my AN1x and I've never heard this
> happen - good for me, bad for you

>
> I wonder if it could be related to the now infamous "popping &
> clicking" bug in the audio outputs?  I had this repaired by Yamaha
> about three - four months after I bought my AN1x. Are you the original
> owner or did you buy it 2nd hand - maybe your warranty is till good?
>
> Jon
>
> --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Jerry A" <jerrya3@h...> wrote:
> > Fellas:
> >
> > This morning I turned my An1x on and started going through some
> > patches. I hit upon one which had both scenes turned on (so you
> could
> > morph between them). There was a loud intermittent rasping noise,
> the
> > kind you get when your speaker connection is hitting and missing.
> So
> > I thought maybe I had tweaked the patch into some weirdness(sounded
> > like a S&H LFO modulating the osc sync) and went to something else,
> > but every patch that had both scenes on had this. The sound is loud
> > enough that the synth sounds soft by comparison.
> >
> > Has anybody run into this? Any advice about how to cure it (short
> of
> > sending it to synth hospital)? What are the options for a synth
> > hospital other than yamaha?
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can give.
> >
> > Jerry
>
>
>
>
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Alex Koziaris wrote:
> 
> My AN1x has ver 1.02 of the bios and it still makes popping noises when
> cold. I spoke to a Technician from Yamaha Australia about this issue and
> it seems to be a design fault. He mentioned that he had to re-route the
> grounding from one of the boards internally . Newer versions have been
> modified and don't suffer from this problem. I find that this problem only
> occurs on cold days ,after a few minutes of warming up the popping noises
> disappear.
> www.mp3.com/acidone


What? AN1x? Sensisitve to temperature?! Wow, this thing is more analog than we
thought!! :)


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  What? AN1x? Sensisitve to temperature?! Wow, this thing is more analog than we
  thought!! :)


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At 11:41 15-12-2000 -0800, you wrote:

> > modified and don't suffer from this problem. I find that this problem only
> > occurs on cold days ,after a few minutes of warming up the popping noises
> > disappear.
> > www.mp3.com/acidone
>
>What? AN1x? Sensisitve to temperature?! Wow, this thing is more analog than we
>thought!! :)


This was known from the moment it was released. My AN1x does it too. Just 
switch it on some minutes (with amps down) before using it ;-)
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