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Ello...
i'm new here so i wanted to say ello...
i've got an1x for a year n a half now  and using it for dnb basses, pads,
fx... everything...

 And here comes the forst question (or suggestionrather) about an1x
editor... has anyone already thought bout making any plugin or smth for it,
that would check sounds parameters with same names and delete duplicates ?
I've got many banks with the same names, and saometimes they are the same ,
sometimes modified sounds... it's hard for me to analise every single sound
in them...

respect

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From: "Zyguli aka Fragile" <zyguli@...>

> Ello...
> i'm new here so i wanted to say ello...

Hi!

>  And here comes the forst question (or suggestionrather) about an1x
> editor... has anyone already thought bout making any plugin or smth for
it,
> that would check sounds parameters with same names and delete duplicates ?
> I've got many banks with the same names, and saometimes they are the same
,
> sometimes modified sounds... it's hard for me to analise every single
sound
> in them...

The author of AN1xEdit, Gary Gregson, is on this list as well, so I'll
choose my words carefully. :)

AN1xEdit basically copies the interface of the AN1x (and it adds a few handy
gadgets). So you have all the controls, and room for 128 patches in a set.
And even though I have 64 Mb of memory and some 10 Gb free disk space, I
always have to work with those 128 voices.

The reason for all this, if I understand correctly, that Yamaha asked him to
produce just that, and paid him for it. Now, a good rule of thumb for any
programmer who actually wants to make a living, is that you don't add any
features that no-one asked for. So AN1xExit is a very handy editor, but it's
not much of a librarian.

So if any changes would be made to AN1xEdit, Gary would have to do it in his
valuable free time, and I think Yamaha would have to give their consent as
well, although I'm not sure on that one.

What I was wondering myself, is whether the VST standard offers the option
of MIDI-only plug-ins. In that case, you could put a synth editor in your
VST application. Perhaps I should suggest it to Steinberg...

- Peter

You might want to spend some time with the demo version of SoundDiver 
from Emagic. Sound Diver is the only 'commercial' app, i.e., not 
freeware - cost money, that I know of which supports Ed/Lib functions 
for the AN1x. I'm uncertain whether it offers the 'compare' function 
that you describe. 

If memory serves, a similar function was provided in Galaxy Librarians 
from Opcode Systems. However, Galaxy was discontinued before Opcode 
provided an AN1x module - and then Gibson discontinued Opcode. Sigh.

There is an Autolink feature between Logic Audio and SoundDiver which 
may accomplish some of what Peter mentions - subscribing to patch names 
in SD from Logic, perhaps even involing edit mode, etc. I've not spent 
enough time with it to honestly say. This also is similar to how Galaxy 
& Vision worked. I'm unaware of any app or VST plug-in that performs a  
similar function for Steinberg apps (Cubase.)

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:

> From: "Zyguli aka Fragile" <zyguli@k...>
> 
> > Ello...
> > i'm new here so i wanted to say ello...
> 
> Hi!
> 
> >  And here comes the forst question (or suggestionrather) about an1x
> > editor... has anyone already thought bout making any plugin or smth for
> it,
> > that would check sounds parameters with same names and delete duplicates ?
> > I've got many banks with the same names, and saometimes they are the same
> ,
> > sometimes modified sounds... it's hard for me to analise every single
> sound
> > in them...
> 
> The author of AN1xEdit, Gary Gregson, is on this list as well, so I'll
> choose my words carefully. :)
> 
> AN1xEdit basically copies the interface of the AN1x (and it adds a few handy
> gadgets). So you have all the controls, and room for 128 patches in a set.
> And even though I have 64 Mb of memory and some 10 Gb free disk space, I
> always have to work with those 128 voices.
> 
> The reason for all this, if I understand correctly, that Yamaha asked him to
> produce just that, and paid him for it. Now, a good rule of thumb for any
> programmer who actually wants to make a living, is that you don't add any
> features that no-one asked for. So AN1xExit is a very handy editor, but it's
> not much of a librarian.
> 
> So if any changes would be made to AN1xEdit, Gary would have to do it in his
> valuable free time, and I think Yamaha would have to give their consent as
> well, although I'm not sure on that one.
> 
> What I was wondering myself, is whether the VST standard offers the option
> of MIDI-only plug-ins. In that case, you could put a synth editor in your
> VST application. Perhaps I should suggest it to Steinberg...
> 
> - Peter

From: <jondl@...>

> There is an Autolink feature between Logic Audio and SoundDiver which
> may accomplish some of what Peter mentions - subscribing to patch names
> in SD from Logic, perhaps even involing edit mode, etc. I've not spent
> enough time with it to honestly say. This also is similar to how Galaxy
> & Vision worked. I'm unaware of any app or VST plug-in that performs a
> similar function for Steinberg apps (Cubase.)

The thing with VST is that it's very platform-independant. You would only
have to re-compile your code and you can run it on Windows, MacOS, BeOS,
Linux, whatever, and also in the VST application of your choice.. Also, you
don't have to worry about MIDI issues and you can even have the VST host
draw your user interface.

VST instruments and filters are relatively easy and fast to implement. So,
making a MIDI-only plug-in, for instance a synth editor, would only seem
logical to me.

Hey Gary, how about a VST AN1xEdit? :)

My dream is to build a dedicated VST box one day, without things like
Windows getting in the way. Just VST and a very light host OS.

- Peter

peter wrote:
>>
VST instruments and filters are relatively easy and fast to implement. So,
making a MIDI-only plug-in, for instance a synth editor, would only seem
logical to me.
Hey Gary, how about a VST AN1xEdit? :)
<<

VST plugin format does not provide sufficient features for a MIDI only synth
editor.

However Yamaha in association with some other sequencer/hardware vendors
will shortly be releasing a new 'Open MIDI Plugin System' format, that is
specifically designed for creating MIDI editors/effects and softsynths.

I will be supporting this new system in future editors.

Regards

Gary
Email:
     gary@...
     http://www.yme.co.uk/yme