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OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-25 by Phil

Hi All,

Apologies for the cross posting but this is something that has urgently come
up.

Does anyone know of a program to convert old Atari music files to PC?

The best I've come up with is a Atari Emulator called WinSTon.

Many thanks,

Phil

Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-25 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com

Can't they be saved as Type 0 or Type 1 standard MIDI files and then
imported into your Win app?

Jon

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--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Apologies for the cross posting but this is something that has
urgently come
> up.
>
> Does anyone know of a program to convert old Atari music files to
PC?
>
> The best I've come up with is a Atari Emulator called WinSTon.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Phil

Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-25 by Phil

Thanks Jon,

Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI
file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read
Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes".

Cheers for your reply,

Phil




From: jondl@...
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:06:32 -0000
To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor


Can't they be saved as Type 0 or Type 1 standard MIDI files and then
imported into your Win app?

Jon

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--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Apologies for the cross posting but this is something that has
urgently come
> up.
>
> Does anyone know of a program to convert old Atari music files to
PC?
>
> The best I've come up with is a Atari Emulator called WinSTon.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Phil



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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-25 by Peter Korsten

From: "Phil" <accession@...>

> Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI
> file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read
> Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes".

Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks,
however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks
is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk).

I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari
platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read
Atari disks.

- Peter

Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-26 by Phil

<***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the
moment.> :-)))

Hi Peter,

A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said:

"...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher if
you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL
and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture
files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course."


So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards compatibility
later down the track.

Cheers,

Phil






From: "Peter Korsten" <peterk@...>
Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:11:21 +0200
To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor


From: "Phil" <accession@...>

> Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI
> file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read
> Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes".

Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks,
however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks
is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk).

I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari
platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read
Atari disks.

- Peter



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Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-26 by jondl@jdlx-musique.com

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--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote:
> <***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the
> moment.> :-)))
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said:
>
> "...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher if
> you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL
> and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture
> files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course."
>
>
> So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards compatibility
> later down the track.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...>
> Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:11:21 +0200
> To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor
>
>
> From: "Phil" <accession@o...>
>
> > Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI
> > file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read
> > Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes".
>
> Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks,
> however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks
> is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk).
>
> I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari
> platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read
> Atari disks.
>
> - Peter
>
>
>
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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-26 by Phil

Thanks Jon,

The mesage boards look like they'll lead to the answers I was after.

Many thanks (again) for your help!

Phil




From: jondl@...
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:37:05 -0000
To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor


Phil,
>From the Feb. 2000 issue of SOS...

http://www.ataricentral.com
http://www.incontrolinternet.co.uk/atari/index.html
http://www.sak.nu/
http://www.holmerup.com/

and the usual, trusty stand-bys...

http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Atari/
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/atari/

Jon


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--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Phil <accession@o...> wrote:
> <***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the
> moment.> :-)))
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said:
>
> "...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher if
> you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL
> and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture
> files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course."
>
>
> So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards compatibility
> later down the track.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...>
> Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 01:11:21 +0200
> To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor
>
>
> From: "Phil" <accession@o...>
>
> > Thinking about it more, I've realised that something like a standard MIDI
> > file is well, a standard MIDI file. So my next question was "Can a PC read
> > Atari formatted disks?" and the answer apparently is "Yes".
>
> Er, the answer is "no". An Atari can read and write MS-DOS formatted disks,
> however, since the only difference between MS-DOS and Atari formatted disks
> is the media decriptor byte (indeed, one byte on the entire disk).
>
> I have no doubt that various tools and/or patches exist on the Atari
> platform to fix this, and perhaps more modern PC operating systems can read
> Atari disks.
>
> - Peter
>
>
>
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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: OT: Atari to PC File Convertor

2000-10-26 by Peter Korsten

From: "Phil" <accession@...>

> <***Sorry to everyone for the boring (ie. irrelevant) OT thread at the
> moment.> :-)))

What do you mean, "at the moment"? :)

> A post I recieved on the Atari topic from another list said:
>
> "...Yes. PC will read Atari disks formatted on Atari TOS 1.04 or higher
if
> you used the standard built in formatter. I know midifiles and notator SL
> and logic files come out ok. So do .TXT files, JPG, GIF and other picture
> files. Files that are application dependent don't work of course."
>
> So I can only assume that Atari made a change for the outwards
compatibility
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> later down the track.

Ah, I see. So they did at least one thing right at Atari. :)

I think the whole issue was that Atari wanted to use MS-DOS format disks,
but were afraid that Microsoft would sue them if they used the same format -
so they changed this one byte. Isn't intellectual property nice?

- Peter