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Hey !

Thank you, but it didn't make it, I can download your file, uncompress it without problem, but my AN1x editor is still going down.... only with that patch !!! I don't know why !!?? Are you on a Mac or a PC ? Anyway, thanks for your help.

Xavier

Xavier,

Please send the copy of the file you are attempting to load to me. I will
take a look at it and see if I can see why its causing An1xEdit problems.

Regards

Gary
Email:
     gary@...
     http://www.yme.co.uk/yme


Hey !

Thank you, but it didn't make it, I can download your file, uncompress it
without problem, but my AN1x editor is still going down.... only with that
patch !!! I don't know why !!?? Are you on a Mac or a PC ? Anyway, thanks
for your help.

Xavier

X - FWIW, I'm using a Mac. Still, it shouldn't make a difference.  
I've no problem reports from any of my *own* patches so I don't know 
why this 'Ophone' bank is still giving you trouble. It worked for 
me...

Has anybody else had a problem?

Gary - here's the link to the original file from sophalicus@...

http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
list/AN1xPatches/patch+me+ophone/Ophone.zip

and the link to the *copy* I reposted for X to try since he had a 
problem with the original and I didn't:

http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
list/AN1xPatches/jdlxmusique/ophone_copy.zip


regards,
Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Gary Gregson" <gary@y...> wrote:
> Xavier,
> 
> Please send the copy of the file you are attempting to load to me. 
I will
> take a look at it and see if I can see why its causing An1xEdit 
problems.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gary
> Email:
>      gary@y...
>      http://www.yme.co.uk/yme
> 
> 
> Hey !
> 
> Thank you, but it didn't make it, I can download your file, 
uncompress it
> without problem, but my AN1x editor is still going down.... only 
with that
> patch !!! I don't know why !!?? Are you on a Mac or a PC ? Anyway, 
thanks

> for your help.
> 
> Xavier

Hi Jon,

I checked out the file...and it does indeed kill the PC version of AN1xEdit.
I traced the problem to  a small bug in AN1xEdit PC. Basically if your
comments are greater than 255 characters then the text strings do not get
terminated problem. Thereafter on re-load you get a memory fault :-(

This doesn't occur on the Mac version due to the different way strings are
handled on the Mac.

Hence I guess Jon created the file on the Mac and went a little over
enthusiastic with his voice comment descriptions :-)

For those PC users who want to try the voices, I have fixed the file and
re-upload to Jons' section of the file area as ophone2.zip.

I guess I ought to put together a patched version of AN1xEdit PC to cure the
problem....but I am a little busy at the moment :-( SO until I do ....please
keep your voice and sequence comments to below 255 characters.

Regards

Gary
Email:
     gary@...
     http://www.yme.co.uk/yme

-----Original Message-----
From: jondl@... [mailto:jondl@...]
Sent: 27 September 2000 16:08
To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: To Jon --> "ophone" patch... still problem !!!


X - FWIW, I'm using a Mac. Still, it shouldn't make a difference.
I've no problem reports from any of my *own* patches so I don't know
why this 'Ophone' bank is still giving you trouble. It worked for
me...

Has anybody else had a problem?

Gary - here's the link to the original file from sophalicus@...

http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
list/AN1xPatches/patch+me+ophone/Ophone.zip

and the link to the *copy* I reposted for X to try since he had a
problem with the original and I didn't:

http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
list/AN1xPatches/jdlxmusique/ophone_copy.zip


regards,
Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Gary Gregson" <gary@y...> wrote:
> Hi Jon,
> 
> I checked out the file...and it does indeed kill the PC version of 
AN1xEdit.
> I traced the problem to  a small bug in AN1xEdit PC. Basically if 
your
> comments are greater than 255 characters then the text strings do 
not get
> terminated problem. Thereafter on re-load you get a memory fault :-(
> 
> This doesn't occur on the Mac version due to the different way 
strings are
> handled on the Mac.
> 
> Hence I guess Jon created the file on the Mac and went a little over
> enthusiastic with his voice comment descriptions :-)

For the record, the Ophone bank is NOT of my creation. All I did was 
download the file, comment on the uniqueness of the voices, and 
repost the file as a favor when Xavier reported the problem. These 
are not my Voices. I'll reload them to the ophone folder if the 
proper owner does not...


> 
> For those PC users who want to try the voices, I have fixed the 
file and
> re-upload to Jons' section of the file area as ophone2.zip.
> 
> I guess I ought to put together a patched version of AN1xEdit PC to 
cure the
> problem....but I am a little busy at the moment :-( SO until I do 
....please
> keep your voice and sequence comments to below 255 characters.

Wow. Thanks for the terrific follow up (as always) Gary. Good of you 
to spend time on this. It's a pretty rare phenomena to have so_many 
comments in a file. Considering how long AN1xEdit has been in use I 
don't think too many users have been affected by such a minor bug. 
Now we know if there's a next time.

Regards,
Jon

> 
> Regards
> 
> Gary
> Email:
>      gary@y...
>      http://www.yme.co.uk/yme
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jondl@j... [mailto:jondl@j...]
> Sent: 27 September 2000 16:08
> To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: To Jon --> "ophone" patch... still problem 
!!!

> 
> 
> X - FWIW, I'm using a Mac. Still, it shouldn't make a difference.
> I've no problem reports from any of my *own* patches so I don't know
> why this 'Ophone' bank is still giving you trouble. It worked for
> me...
> 
> Has anybody else had a problem?
> 
> Gary - here's the link to the original file from sophalicus@h...
> 
> http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
> list/AN1xPatches/patch+me+ophone/Ophone.zip
> 
> and the link to the *copy* I reposted for X to try since he had a
> problem with the original and I didn't:
> 
> http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
> list/AN1xPatches/jdlxmusique/ophone_copy.zip
> 
> 
> regards,
> Jon

Hello

     I am running the An1x-edit from a PC, and I am having no problems with
the "ophone"-patch. It didn't crash and my An1x recieved the patches without
problem, so how can it be a bug in the An1x-edit????.

Jan

> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Gary Gregson [mailto:gary@...]
> Emne: RE: [AN1x-list] Re: To Jon --> "ophone" patch... still problem !!!
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> I checked out the file...and it does indeed kill the PC version
> of AN1xEdit.
> I traced the problem to  a small bug in AN1xEdit PC. Basically if your
> comments are greater than 255 characters then the text strings do not get
> terminated problem. Thereafter on re-load you get a memory fault :-(
>
> This doesn't occur on the Mac version due to the different way strings are
> handled on the Mac.
>
> Hence I guess Jon created the file on the Mac and went a little over
> enthusiastic with his voice comment descriptions :-)
>
> For those PC users who want to try the voices, I have fixed the file and
> re-upload to Jons' section of the file area as ophone2.zip.
>
> I guess I ought to put together a patched version of AN1xEdit PC
> to cure the
> problem....but I am a little busy at the moment :-( SO until I do
> ....please
> keep your voice and sequence comments to below 255 characters.
>
> Regards
>
> Gary
> Email:
>      gary@...
>      http://www.yme.co.uk/yme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jondl@... [mailto:jondl@...]
> Sent: 27 September 2000 16:08
> To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: To Jon --> "ophone" patch... still problem !!!
>
>
> X - FWIW, I'm using a Mac. Still, it shouldn't make a difference.
> I've no problem reports from any of my *own* patches so I don't know
> why this 'Ophone' bank is still giving you trouble. It worked for
> me...
>
> Has anybody else had a problem?
>
> Gary - here's the link to the original file from sophalicus@...
>
> http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
> list/AN1xPatches/patch+me+ophone/Ophone.zip
>
> and the link to the *copy* I reposted for X to try since he had a
> problem with the original and I didn't:
>
> http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-
> list/AN1xPatches/jdlxmusique/ophone_copy.zip
>
>
> regards,
> Jon
>
>
>
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Jan,
>>
I am running the An1x-edit from a PC, and I am having no problems with
the "ophone"-patch. It didn't crash and my An1x recieved the patches without
problem, so how can it be a bug in the An1x-edit????.
<<

The nature of the problem means its very dependent on what data is already
in the PC memory space. IF there are plenty of zeros where the comment
strings get loaded, then the unterminated string sizes will remain small
(i.e. existing zeros in memory will act as terminators). However if there
are no zeros, the strings don't get terminated and appear to be huge. This
in turn crashes the app when it tries to manipulate them. Since there is no
way of knowing what's already in memory or where the app gets loaded
to...the whole situation is indeterminate. It may work fine in some
cases....or cause a total system crash in others.

Basically its just a bad bit of programming on my part....but unfortunately
one of those programming errors that's hard to spot if you don't see the
mistake immediately. Furthermore, since not many people actually write huge
comments into their AN1 library files....its not the kind of thing that will
immediately start to generate end user bug reports ;-(

Regards

Gary
Email:
     gary@...
     http://www.yme.co.uk/yme

-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@...]
Sent: 28 September 2000 04:05
To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
Subject: SV: [AN1x-list] Re: To Jon --> "ophone" patch... still problem
!!!

From: "Gary Gregson" <gary@...>

> Basically its just a bad bit of programming on my part....but
unfortunately
> one of those programming errors that's hard to spot if you don't see the
> mistake immediately. Furthermore, since not many people actually write
huge
> comments into their AN1 library files....its not the kind of thing that
will
> immediately start to generate end user bug reports ;-(

I see these about once every two weeks as FreeBSD security advisories. :)

Guess what, my computer is working again. It took me a week and you really
don't want to know what else in matters of installing and re-installing. But
luckily, I managed to save all my data.

And, incidently, I now have a CD-Rewriter (Plextor 8/4/32A). The thing
writes twice as fast as my old CD-ROM reads...

- Peter