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Yes, well!!, when I'm working I really like to turn some knobs and being able to tweak the sounds, and for example, there the JP has the advantage in several more knobs. It has a couple more OSC and room for more sounds. Furthermore, it has a great sound, it's a bit more cleaner in sound than the An1x, and as I remember the 8080 also have the vocoder. I do not own one of these myself, I went for the Virus B instead, now there's a KILLERSYNTH!!!!. Ups!!! sorry, what I mean is that the JP8000/8080 has more features and a cleaner sound, but you also pay that much extra. Also there is the way it makes the sounds, but that's all about taste.

Jan


From: Philip <synth72@...>

> Care to back that up with substance as to why it's a
> better synth? All you've said is that it's better, but
> not why it's better. I'm not trying to start an
> arguement. I'm just curious as to what you see in it
> that makes it "better".
>
>
> --- Pergamon <pergamon@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Philip <synth72@...>
> >
> > >
> > > I wouldn't say 1 is a better synth over the other
> > as
> > > both have their strenghts, but the AN is
> > definitely a
> > > better value than the JP8000.
> > > --- Pergamon <pergamon@...> wrote:
> >
> > As i stated, if you compare the prices, yes, you get
> > more when you buy a AN1X. Even though I have a AN1X
> > and love that machine I still have to admit IMO that
> > the JP is a better machine. I didn't say a much
> > better machine =)
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes the JP is a better machine but the price is
> > > > much, much higher.
> >
> >
> >
>
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> >Ups!!! sorry, what I mean is that the JP8000/8080 has more features and a
> cleaner sound, but >you also pay that much extra.

As I said you get more for the money when buying a An1x

>
> But it also have less effects and keys then the NA1x...

Will you forget about the keys!!!! =)

> > [summarising]
> > what I mean is that the JP8000/8080 has more features and a cleaner
> > sound, but you also pay that much extra.
>
> I'm not sure about the cleanness of the sound. After all, it's supposed to
> be an analogue synth. I do know that the AN1x throws a nasty spike over the
> left channel when you switch it on or off, but when I listen to it through
> my 01v digital mixer and AKG K240M studio monitor headphones, I hear a clean
> sound - no noise at all.

I have no doubt there were no noise when listening through a 01v =)

I meant the way it made the sound, but i guess it all bears down to taste.

> The AN1x has more features than the JP8000, as a comparison between the spec
> sheets will tell you.

I think I will take your word for it. I checked this machine out when it was released, but choose to buy the AN1X instead.

> The JP8000 kicks arse in the user interface department, but I'm not even
> sure about the waveforms. Supersaw is nice, but there are these 'inner1' and
> 'inner2' waveforms of the AN1x as well.

Not sure about the waveforms myself.

Anyway, taste is the keyword here I think. Some people like the 01v mixer and some thinks it has to "hard" an output, some like the Nordlead and some thinks it sucks. I just think that when JP8000 produces a sound, it "sounds" cleaner/better, or should I say, the way I want it, for a specific task. Every synth has it's own way of making a sound, therefore even though it has basically the same features it has it's own "sound". As an ex. take the old 303, no other machine has been able to produce the same "sound". Granted there are some machines out there that can give a very good result, but it just can't make the exact same "sound". The same goes for a wide range of older synths.

Jan

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Pergamon" <pergamon@g...> wrote:

> I just think that when JP8000 produces a sound, it "sounds"
> cleaner/better,

That´s simply the typical "Roland"sound. Clean and Hifi-like. A Virus
e.g. sounds more raw, but also more thin. Or a Nordlead, fresh, mean
but fat. And so on...

What i wonder though is...does every An1x sounds the same? Or does a
Stock-A AN1x sounds different from a Stock-C AN1x? (Different OS,
different DSP´s and so on)

From: <tomfinegan@...>

> What i wonder though is...does every An1x sounds the same? Or does a
> Stock-A AN1x sounds different from a Stock-C AN1x? (Different OS,
> different DSP´s and so on)

That's a good question, but I don't think so...but would be cool if they
(Yamaha) release an OS2.0 w/ the PLG150-AN improvements plus the AN1x scenes
mode.

PinheadX.

> --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Philip <synth72@y...> wrote:
> > Care to back that up with substance as to why it's a
> > better synth? All you've said is that it's better, but
> > not why it's better. I'm not trying to start an
> > arguement. I'm just curious as to what you see in it
> > that makes it "better".

The question here was intended for me, not the "dude" that spammed this list, just to promote himself. Or maybe I'm missing something here.

Actually is it fun to hear what feelings people have towards different synths.

> This dude just came on to post his mp3-url...forget about him.
>
> Regards, Tom
>
> p.s. Different ppl. different tastes, some like it hot, some like
> JP8k...

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Pergamon" <pergamon@g...> wrote:

>
> > --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Philip <synth72@y...> wrote:
> > > Care to back that up with substance as to why it's a
> > > better synth? All you've said is that it's better, but
> > > not why it's better. I'm not trying to start an
> > > arguement. I'm just curious as to what you see in it
> > > that makes it "better".
>
> The question here was intended for me, not the "dude" that spammed

this list, just to promote himself.
Oh, you are right, sorry, i thought that Philip were asking
the "Dude" and not you.

Regards, Tom

The question was originally to Jan (Pergamon) as he
was claiming that the JP8000 was just better, but not
providing insight or substance as to why he thought it
was better. I was simply curious as to why he thought
the way he did.
Cheers,

Philip

P.S. I'm finally getting off my lazy butt and
contributing some new sounds to the list, probably
this weekend.

--- tomfinegan@... wrote:

> --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Pergamon"
> <pergamon@g...> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Philip
> <synth72@y...> wrote:
> > > > Care to back that up with substance as to why
> it's a
> > > > better synth? All you've said is that it's
> better, but
> > > > not why it's better. I'm not trying to start
> an
> > > > arguement. I'm just curious as to what you see
> in it
> > > > that makes it "better".
> >
> > The question here was intended for me, not the
> "dude" that spammed
> this list, just to promote himself.
> Oh, you are right, sorry, i thought that Philip were
> asking
> the "Dude" and not you.
>
> Regards, Tom
>
>
>
>

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From: <tomfinegan@...>

> What i wonder though is...does every An1x sounds the same? Or does a
> Stock-A AN1x sounds different from a Stock-C AN1x? (Different OS,
> different DSP´s and so on)

I would be more than surprised if there were any difference between two
AN1x's. I mean, the analogue emulation isn't *that* good, you know. :)

- Peter

From: "Pergamon" <pergamon@...>

> > But it also have less effects and keys then the NA1x...
>
> Will you forget about the keys!!!! =)

>And it doesn't have aftertouch either. :)

>- Peter

Does it have an ON / OFF button????? or is that part of an upgrade/expansion board????

Jan

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:

> I would be more than surprised if there were any difference between

two

> AN1x's. I mean, the analogue emulation isn't *that* good, you

know. :)

I know what you mean <g>, what a shmae...i thought they would have
built in a kind of "fuzzy-logic"circuits to emulate the imperfection
of Analogue Synths. Well, this can be a disadvantage but also be seen
as a big advantage, or would you like to "warm up" your AN1x for an
hour, before use, and try to bring it back on the right tune for
another one...like the Minimoog...who always detunes after a while.

From: <tomfinegan@...>

> I know what you mean <g>, what a shmae...i thought they would have
> built in a kind of "fuzzy-logic"circuits to emulate the imperfection
> of Analogue Synths. Well, this can be a disadvantage but also be seen
> as a big advantage, or would you like to "warm up" your AN1x for an
> hour, before use, and try to bring it back on the right tune for
> another one...like the Minimoog...who always detunes after a while.

Well, the one bug that the AN1x really has is a hardware bug, and it only
surfaces if your AN1x is still cold... figures. :)

- Peter

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:

> Well, the one bug that the AN1x really has is a hardware bug, and

it only

> surfaces if your AN1x is still cold... figures. :)
>
> - Peter

See? The fuzzy-logic IS built in...j/k

Tom