The Yamaha AN1x Synthesizer mailing list

> From: rlsnuffy@...
>
> Hello All,
>
> I just acquired an AN1x last week - I've noticed a couple things that
> don't seem quite right with it:

>
> 1) The LEDs blink/change brilliance a good bit when the sequencer or
> arpeggiator are at work.

I think this is normal, it happens to me too at least =)
I'm not entirely sure, but i *think* the lights blink up at an accented
note. =)
(no, i'm not kidding ;)

>
> 2) When I first power it up from cold I get some random chirps from
> it. Maybe 2 or 3 in a 5 or 10 second period, then all is normal.
> And it doesn't do it if it's only been shut off for a few seconds.

I don't know about this one... never had it with mine.....

>
> Is this normal? It doesn't sound like it, but what do I know...

In a message dated Wed, 29 Mar 2000 1:20:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, joel <mango@...> writes:

> > 1) The LEDs blink/change brilliance a good bit when the sequencer or
> > arpeggiator are at work.
>
> I think this is normal, it happens to me too at least =)
> I'm not entirely sure, but i *think* the lights blink up at an accented
> note. =)
> (no, i'm not kidding ;)

cool - i was hoping it was something like that...

> > 2) When I first power it up from cold I get some random chirps from
> > it. Maybe 2 or 3 in a 5 or 10 second period, then all is normal.
> > And it doesn't do it if it's only been shut off for a few seconds.
>
> I don't know about this one... never had it with mine.....

actually, i think i figured this one out - something like a self-inflicted midi loopback thing - details too boring to bother people with here...

thanks!!

bob

> From: rlsnuffy@...
>
> I just acquired an AN1x last week - I've noticed a couple things that
> don't seem quite right with it:
>
> 1) The LEDs blink/change brilliance a good bit when the sequencer or
> arpeggiator are at work.

Nothing to worry about.

> 2) When I first power it up from cold I get some random chirps from
> it. Maybe 2 or 3 in a 5 or 10 second period, then all is normal.
> And it doesn't do it if it's only been shut off for a few seconds.
>
> Is this normal? It doesn't sound like it, but what do I know...

If you have it when you start up the AN1x with a Dual voice activated, it's
a hardware problem, the only real known bug of the AN1x.If it's still under
warranty, you could take it back and have it fixed.

- Peter

rlsnuffy@... wrote:

>

>
> 1) The LEDs blink/change brilliance a good bit when the sequencer or
> arpeggiator are at work.
>

As Joel indicated, this is normal when using the Arp/Seq or Free EG to
alter settings. Don't worry about it.

> 2) When I first power it up from cold I get some random chirps from
> it. Maybe 2 or 3 in a 5 or 10 second period, then all is normal.
> And it doesn't do it if it's only been shut off for a few seconds.
>

As Peter mentioned it is a hardware problem known to Yamaha and can be
serviced. I've had the repair performed and detained the experience on
my AN1x page http://www.jdlx-musique.com/

> Is this normal? It doesn't sound like it, but what do I know...
>

There was some minor debate - well over a year ago on the Teklab list -
whether the problem became worse over time or not. Personally, I'm glad
I had the repair performed but I don't know that it's necessary to
ensure the longevity of your AN1x.

Regards,
Jon

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In a message dated 3/29/2000 4:04:41 PM, peterk@... writes:

>If you have it when you start up the AN1x with a Dual voice activated,
>it's
>a hardware problem, the only real known bug of the AN1x.If it's still under
>warranty, you could take it back and have it fixed.

ah ok - i'll keep an eye on it - although i really think in this case i was
getting some kind of midi dribble loopback thru my setup..

In a message dated 3/29/2000 9:45:56 PM, jondl@... writes:

>There was some minor debate - well over a year ago on the Teklab list -
>whether the problem became worse over time or not. Personally, I'm glad
>I had the repair performed but I don't know that it's necessary to
>ensure the longevity of your AN1x.

thanks for the info... i'll keep an eye on it.

bob

Hi
I also get a similar problem. I've noticed when I boot my An1x up and both
the scenes are on loud blips come out, when I turn a scene off it goes away,
but If I turn both scenes back on It chirps again till it warms up, and the
go away.
I also notice that If I had a pad type sound on the keys and held a chord,
the bllep seem to preceed the re-trigerring of the sound.

Did any of this make sense?

Poloz

rlsnuffy@... wrote:

> From: rlsnuffy@...
>
> Hello All,
>
> I just acquired an AN1x last week - I've noticed a couple things that
> don't seem quite right with it:
>
> 1) The LEDs blink/change brilliance a good bit when the sequencer or
> arpeggiator are at work.
>
> 2) When I first power it up from cold I get some random chirps from
> it. Maybe 2 or 3 in a 5 or 10 second period, then all is normal.
> And it doesn't do it if it's only been shut off for a few seconds.
>
> Is this normal? It doesn't sound like it, but what do I know...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
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Marco Poloz wrote:

>
> Hi
> I also get a similar problem. I've noticed when I boot my An1x up and both
> the scenes are on loud blips come out, when I turn a scene off it goes away,
> but If I turn both scenes back on It chirps again till it warms up, and the
> go away.
> I also notice that If I had a pad type sound on the keys and held a chord,
> the bllep seem to preceed the re-trigerring of the sound.
>
> Did any of this make sense?
>

What you have described - almost verbatim - is the known problem both
Peter and I eluded to in an earlier post. Yamaha can repair the problem
- it is a hardware fix referred to as a 'factory modification'. I've
posted some details of my experience having the repair performed on my
AN1x Page http://www.jdlx-musique.com/

I don't recall if Peter ever had the fix performed. It probably
bothered me more than him ;-) I'd heard about this 'bug' (inaccurate
description I know) prior to buying my AN1x and figured I had a 50/50
chance of getting a model without the problem :-/ If your AN1x is under
Warranty - go for it! If not, ask how much it will cost before
deciding. You might ask what the long term effects on the unit will be
without having the repair performed. As far as I know no one ever
figured out if it gets worse or not?

Jon

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Peter Korsten wrote:

>
> From: "jondl" <jondl@...>
>

> Well, I've never encountered this problem, so I didn't bother.
>

My mistake :-)

> But what's very odd for about the last week or so, is that when I turn the
> unit on, Scene 1 is very soft and Scene 2 has a very high level of reverb.
> When I switch the voice bavk and forth the the + and - keys, the problem is
> gone. I really don't have any explaination for this, but I don't like it
> either. My AN1x is about two years old now.
>

That's a new one on me?! Anybody else heard this before?

Jon

fyi - there's an AN1x on eBay this week. High Bid is at $570. Saw a
couple on Harmony Central too.

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Peter Korsten wrote:

>
>
> But what's very odd for about the last week or so, is that when I turn the
> unit on, Scene 1 is very soft and Scene 2 has a very high level of reverb.
> When I switch the voice bavk and forth the the + and - keys, the problem is
> gone. I really don't have any explaination for this, but I don't like it
> either. My AN1x is about two years old now.

I've been thinking about this while putzing with some patches. Since
the VCA for each Scene can have its own level is it possible their is a
routing in the Control Matrix to VCA Level - or more likely in the Ctrl
Device (under Utility)? Does it happen on EVERY sound? What happens if
you change the Eff Bypass setting to Only Rev or All EF? Does the weird
reverb thing still happen?

Jon

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Have you checked to see if your AN1x is in Mode 1 or Mode 2? Mode 1 is the
default and I believe necessary for AN1xEdit. Mode 2 reassigns the
standard MIDI CC's and from what I can tell is provided to allow you to
automate more parameters via your sequencer. I think at least one of
the Win freeware apps - RayGND uses Mode 2.

Jon

Peter Korsten wrote:

>
> I'll keep the original header, just to show that this mail has been in my
> mailbox for quite a while...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jondl" <jondl@...>
> To: <AN1x-list@onelist.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2000 00:22
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Beeps at power up
>
> > Peter Korsten wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > But what's very odd for about the last week or so, is that when I turn
> the
> > > unit on, Scene 1 is very soft and Scene 2 has a very high level of
> reverb.
> > > When I switch the voice bavk and forth the the + and - keys, the problem
> is
> > > gone. I really don't have any explaination for this, but I don't like it
> > > either. My AN1x is about two years old now.
> >
> > I've been thinking about this while putzing with some patches. Since
> > the VCA for each Scene can have its own level is it possible their is a
> > routing in the Control Matrix to VCA Level - or more likely in the Ctrl
> > Device (under Utility)? Does it happen on EVERY sound? What happens if
> > you change the Eff Bypass setting to Only Rev or All EF? Does the weird
> > reverb thing still happen?
>
> I reset the AN1x to the factory defaults. The problem is now gone, but for
> one or other reason I can't use AN1xEdit (or, as it seems, any MIDI program)
> with the AN1x (and EX5) anymore. Receiving a patch results in the display
> going black, or flickering very fast (it's hard to make out). Now I had most
> of my patches saved at an earlier date, but I can't really use my PC with my
> synths anymore. It looks like something is echoing all incoming MIDI traffic
> to the out, and my synth don't like that.
>
> So one problem is solved, only to introduce another. :)
>
> -- Peter
>
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Mode 1 is NOT necessary to use AN1xEdit. I use Mode 2 without problems with
the editor.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jondl [mailto:jondl@...]
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:19 PM
> To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Beeps at power up
>
>
> Have you checked to see if your AN1x is in Mode 1 or Mode 2?
> Mode 1 is the
> default and I believe necessary for AN1xEdit. Mode 2 reassigns the
> standard MIDI CC's and from what I can tell is provided to
> allow you to
> automate more parameters via your sequencer. I think at least one of
> the Win freeware apps - RayGND uses Mode 2.
>
> Jon
>
> Peter Korsten wrote:
> >
> > I'll keep the original header, just to show that this mail
> has been in my
> > mailbox for quite a while...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jondl" <jondl@...>
> > To: <AN1x-list@onelist.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2000 00:22
> > Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Beeps at power up
> >
> > > Peter Korsten wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But what's very odd for about the last week or so, is
> that when I turn
> > the
> > > > unit on, Scene 1 is very soft and Scene 2 has a very
> high level of
> > reverb.
> > > > When I switch the voice bavk and forth the the + and -
> keys, the problem
> > is
> > > > gone. I really don't have any explaination for this,
> but I don't like it
> > > > either. My AN1x is about two years old now.
> > >
> > > I've been thinking about this while putzing with some
> patches. Since
> > > the VCA for each Scene can have its own level is it
> possible their is a
> > > routing in the Control Matrix to VCA Level - or more
> likely in the Ctrl
> > > Device (under Utility)? Does it happen on EVERY sound?
> What happens if
> > > you change the Eff Bypass setting to Only Rev or All EF?
> Does the weird
> > > reverb thing still happen?
> >
> > I reset the AN1x to the factory defaults. The problem is
> now gone, but for
> > one or other reason I can't use AN1xEdit (or, as it seems,
> any MIDI program)
> > with the AN1x (and EX5) anymore. Receiving a patch results
> in the display
> > going black, or flickering very fast (it's hard to make
> out). Now I had most
> > of my patches saved at an earlier date, but I can't really
> use my PC with my
> > synths anymore. It looks like something is echoing all
> incoming MIDI traffic
> > to the out, and my synth don't like that.
> >
> > So one problem is solved, only to introduce another. :)
> >
> > -- Peter
> >
> >
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Also, where is this RayGND app located so we all can try it? :.)

----- Original Message -----

From: jondl

To: AN1x-list@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:19 PM

Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Beeps at power up

Have you checked to see if your AN1x is in Mode 1 or Mode 2?  Mode 1 is the
default and I believe necessary for AN1xEdit.  Mode 2 reassigns the
standard MIDI CC's and from what I can tell is provided to allow you to
automate more parameters via your sequencer. I think  at least one of
the Win freeware apps - RayGND uses Mode 2.

Jon

Peter Korsten wrote:
>
> I'll keep the original header, just to show that this mail has been in my
> mailbox for quite a while...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jondl" <jondl@...>
> To: <AN1x-list@onelist.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2000 00:22
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Beeps at power up
>
> > Peter Korsten wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > But what's very odd for about the last week or so, is that when I turn
> the
> > > unit on, Scene 1 is very soft and Scene 2 has a very high level of
> reverb.
> > > When I switch the voice bavk and forth the the + and - keys, the problem
> is
> > > gone. I really don't have any explaination for this, but I don't like it
> > > either. My AN1x is about two years old now.
> >
> > I've been thinking about this while putzing with some patches.  Since
> > the VCA for each Scene can have its own level is it possible their is a
> > routing in the Control Matrix to VCA Level - or more likely in the Ctrl
> > Device (under Utility)?  Does it happen on EVERY sound?  What happens if
> > you change the Eff Bypass setting to Only Rev or All EF?  Does the weird
> > reverb thing still happen?
>
> I reset the AN1x to the factory defaults. The problem is now gone, but for
> one or other reason I can't use AN1xEdit (or, as it seems, any MIDI program)
> with the AN1x (and EX5) anymore. Receiving a patch results in the display
> going black, or flickering very fast (it's hard to make out). Now I had most
> of my patches saved at an earlier date, but I can't really use my PC with my
> synths anymore. It looks like something is echoing all incoming MIDI traffic
> to the out, and my synth don't like that.
>
> So one problem is solved, only to introduce another. :)
>
> -- Peter
>
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The proper name is RayGenRND and it can found at
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/grunge/388/framed/

This links is also posted in the Links section here at eGroups. It's
a Win app though - not Mac :-( Oh well. I'm pretty certain Ray is on
the list too.

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, "Edwards, Ed" <ed.edwards@s...> wrote:
> Also, where is this RayGND app located so we all can try it? :.)

How do you switch an AN1x between mode 1 and mode 2?

Cheers
Grant.

See page 96 of the Owners Manual for more details:

"To change between modes, first turn off the power. Then,
press and hold [ASSIGN] and press the [POWER] switch.
Either "mode 1" or "mode 2" will appear in the LCD at the
start-up procedure to indicate which mode is activated."

Jon


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