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reface

2016-01-02 by jim.alciere@...

From what I can see online, the Yamaha reface analog modeling synth doesn't look like much. No mod wheel, but it has speakers. Speakers? The sliders look as though they wouldn't have much room to travel and I'm not sure it can do the complex modulations the AN1X can do.

Jimmy

Re: reface

2016-01-02 by rik.vanhoenacker@...

It takes a lot to beat the AN1x, that's why I bought a second AN1x last week. Together they make a "AN2x" to team up with my JP-8080, JD-800, D-50 and Korg WS... I feel so lucky with these beauties :-)). I'm not tempted by the Reface Quartet :-((

Re: reface

2016-01-02 by DEREK COOK

The AN1x will take a lot of beating. It's still one of my favorite real/software VAs along, with my Nord G2 Engine. I have three VA synth engines in my Kronos, and whilst they sound great, I still think the AN1x and Nord G2 have something about them that gives them a slightly more organic feel. The differences are subtle, but my ears tell me that if I set up an AN1x sound in Kronos AL-1, I will still (just) prefer the AN1x version.

The AN1x is nearly 20 years old, but was probably in development 20 years ago, along with my EX5, and I still think those two synths along with the FS1r (and I'll sneak in my TG77/SY99 as well) represent Yamaha's high water mark in terms of innovation. Since the noughties all they have done is endless rehashes of the Motif which does not appeal to me.

Reface doesn't cut it for me, but I acknowledge they are selling well. I don't like the form factor and mini keys. To get diversity, my portable noodling needs are better satisfied by an iPAD with synths like Sunrizer, Nave, iMini, iSem, iProphet and M1.

Cheers
Derek

Re: reface

2016-01-02 by rik.vanhoenacker@...

Oups, I forgot to mention my trusty EX5r and TG77, indeed Derek they are real water marks. I never tried a FS1r, always thinking it would be more of what i have. Would it be worth exploring knowing wicht gear I have ?

re: [AN1x] Re: reface

2016-01-02 by Jeff

Happy new year to you all !

The Roland Jupiter,8 Juno ertc... "reissues" are a good idea, the sound is OK but the polyphony sucks. Why not at least 6 or 8 notes as the "real things" ??? Not for technical reasons for sure... The small keyboard is not a problem, you can buy only the sound module and uise any MIDI keyboard you want. I don't understand this "mini keyboard fashion", think Arturia, Novation and a bunch of others; thanks to Roland to sell it separately !

Cheers.

J.F.

P.S.: of course i agree about the AN1x, why Yamaha never sold an "AN2x" or any name you like with a little more features, say, more pots, 16 or 20 notes polyphony and the same sound engine ? I guess it was just an attempt to catch the "V.A. train" and nothing more.

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> The AN1x will take a lot of beating. It's still one of my favorite real/software VAs along, with my Nord G2 Engine. I have three VA synth engines in my Kronos, and whilst they sound great, I still think the AN1x and Nord G2 have something about them that gives them a slightly more organic feel. The differences are subtle, but my ears tell me that if I set up an AN1x sound in Kronos AL-1, I will still (just) prefer the AN1x version.
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> The AN1x is nearly 20 years old, but was probably in development 20 years ago, along with my EX5, and I still think those two synths along with the FS1r (and I'll sneak in my TG77/SY99 as well) represent Yamaha's high water mark in terms of innovation. Since the noughties all they have done is endless rehashes of the Motif which does not appeal to me.
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> Reface doesn't cut it for me, but I acknowledge they are selling well. I don't like the form factor and mini keys. To get diversity, my portable noodling needs are better satisfied by an iPAD with synths like Sunrizer, Nave, iMini, iSem, iProphet and M1.
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Re: [AN1x] Re: reface

2016-01-02 by Peter Korsten

Op 2-1-2016 om 10:09 schreef DEREK COOK dacook.sa432bb@... [AN1x-list]:

The AN1x is nearly 20 years old, but was probably in development 20 years ago, along with my EX5, and I still think those two synths along with the FS1r (and I'll sneak in my TG77/SY99 as well) represent Yamaha's high water mark in terms of innovation. Since the noughties all they have done is endless rehashes of the Motif which does not appeal to me.

The EX5 (I've got a silver one) is nice, but it has some serious issues. Beautiful, but flawed.

- Peter

Re: [AN1x] Re: reface

2016-01-02 by DEREK COOK

I like the EX5 so much I have two (one blue and one silver). It's still my main bottom tier keyboard when I gig, so I have one as a spare. Especially since I had a PSU failure in one and Yamaha don't repair them anymore (helpful hint: the A3000 PSU is the same!)

You're quite right: the EX5 concept was flawed, especially in performance mode: DSP limitations in performance mode limited your use of the "special (non AWM voices), a buggy MIDI spec that can corrupt your data (and not supporting all data types) and the really stupid one of only allowing two layers in performance mode to be set on the keyboard (16 via external MIDI though!).

Despite that, it still takes some beating sound wise. The AWM engine is more complex than the Motif one (at least compared to the one in my Motif Rack ES), so you can do a lot of subtle editing

Cheers
Derek

On 02/01/2016 16:51, Peter Korsten peter@... [AN1x-list] wrote:

Op 2-1-2016 om 10:09 schreef DEREK COOK dacook.sa432bb@... [AN1x-list]:

The AN1x is nearly 20 years old, but was probably in development 20 years ago, along with my EX5, and I still think those two synths along with the FS1r (and I'll sneak in my TG77/SY99 as well) represent Yamaha's high water mark in terms of innovation. Since the noughties all they have done is endless rehashes of the Motif which does not appeal to me.

The EX5 (I've got a silver one) is nice, but it has some serious issues. Beautiful, but flawed.

- Peter