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Hi all,

My 6th pot is malfunctioning. Only when I push, hold and rotate does the value change. And its not a smooth change, Its pretty erratic. Anyone have this same problem? Ive opened the AN1X and explored the different components and it looks like the top 4 pots are on one board and the second board on another. Anyone know if I can get these two boards from yamaha or anywhere else?  

Thanks for your help,

Clinton

Sorry if this posted twice, something funny happens when I press send.

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Try some electronic contact cleaner like KF or similar sold in every DIY electronics shop. Spray it inside the pot, rotate it 10 - 20 times, wipe out the excess, let dry... done .
Cheers.
J.F.

On 12/02/2014 04:30, cbright9@... wrote:

Hi all,

My 6th pot is malfunctioning. Only when I push, hold and rotate does the value change. And its not a smooth change, Its pretty erratic. Anyone have this same problem? Ive opened the AN1X and explored the different components and it looks like the top 4 pots are on one board and the second board on another. Anyone know if I can get these two boards from yamaha or anywhere else?  

Thanks for your help,

Clinton

Sorry if this posted twice, something funny happens when I press send.

Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection Antivirus avast! est active.

Hey thanks for the responses.
So Im going to try the pot cleaner first. I was wondering if I should pull the board out to do that?

And if that doesnt work Im going to try to track down the part. I called yamahaUSA and they said its discontinued. How long ago did you order it Chris?

And lastly, does anyone know where I could look online for the parts? I have a part number and Ive typed it into google and I get to a place called partsimple.com saying they have it but there is no pictured part, so Im a little skeptical. Has anyone dealt with this site before?

Thanks in advance
Clinton Bright
cbright9@...

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It was three years ago, Clinton, and I seem to recall that supplies were low then, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're no longer available. If the clean up doesn't work, send me the part number I'll try Yamaha Canada again and see if they happen to have one left. If they do, I'll have them send it to me and then mail it to you.  

Best,

Chris


On 12/02/14, Clinton Bright <cbright9@...> wrote:

Hey thanks for the responses.
So Im going to try the pot cleaner first. I was wondering if I should pull the board out to do that?

And if that doesnt work Im going to try to track down the part. I called yamahaUSA and they said its discontinued. How long ago did you order it Chris?

And lastly, does anyone know where I could look online for the parts? I have a part number and Ive typed it into google and I get to a place called partsimple.com saying they have it but there is no pictured part, so Im a little skeptical. Has anyone dealt with this site before?

Thanks in advance
Clinton Bright
cbright9@...

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Pardon a brief venting.

When the AN1X initially came out, it cost $1500.00. As it was supposed to be a professional piece of kit, I feel Yamaha should have attached the pots to the case (which should have been metal) and had leads to the circuit boards. There were only 8 pots.

Jimmy

 

It was three years ago, Clinton, and I seem to recall that supplies were low then, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're no longer available. If the clean up doesn't work, send me the part number I'll try Yamaha Canada again and see if they happen to have one left. If they do, I'll have them send it to me and then mail it to you.  

Best,

Chris


On 12/02/14, Clinton Bright <cbright9@...> wrote:

Hey thanks for the responses.
So Im going to try the pot cleaner first. I was wondering if I should pull the board out to do that?

And if that doesnt work Im going to try to track down the part. I called yamahaUSA and they said its discontinued. How long ago did you order it Chris?

And lastly, does anyone know where I could look online for the parts? I have a part number and Ive typed it into google and I get to a place called partsimple.com saying they have it but there is no pictured part, so Im a little skeptical. Has anyone dealt with this site before?

Thanks in advance
Clinton Bright
cbright9@...

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Clinton, I had the same issue on 4 of the encoders when I bought my AN1X.  My number 4 would only work when pressed down and even then the value was all over the place.

You don't need to replace anything if you have a soldering iron.  Simply re-solder your 6 encoder and that should fix it.  I don't know why but the encoders lose proper contact to the board over time.  While you're in there, do it to all the encoders.  That's what I did and it now works good as new.  I hope this helps.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Clinton <cbright9@...> wrote:

 

Well the clean up didn't work. So I'm looking for someone to sell me their scrapped AN1X or the following part numbers NX818750 which has PN 2/5 printed in it, and NX818760 which has PN 3/5 printed on it. NX818760 is the board with the issue, but I figure while its in pieces I might as well just change both. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks,

Clinton

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Keep <ckeep@...> wrote:

 

It was three years ago, Clinton, and I seem to recall that supplies were low then, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're no longer available. If the clean up doesn't work, send me the part number I'll try Yamaha Canada again and see if they happen to have one left. If they do, I'll have them send it to me and then mail it to you.  

Best,

Chris


On 12/02/14, Clinton Bright <cbright9@...> wrote:

Hey thanks for the responses.
So Im going to try the pot cleaner first. I was wondering if I should pull the board out to do that?

And if that doesnt work Im going to try to track down the part. I called yamahaUSA and they said its discontinued. How long ago did you order it Chris?

And lastly, does anyone know where I could look online for the parts? I have a part number and Ive typed it into google and I get to a place called partsimple.com saying they have it but there is no pictured part, so Im a little skeptical. Has anyone dealt with this site before?

Thanks in advance
Clinton Bright
cbright9@...

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I was pretty terrible at it myself, but in this case it's hard to make worse.  Even with a replacement, you'll have to remove the old encoder.  Make sure you pick up a solder pump.  It helps a great deal.  Not the baby nose sucker thing that comes with most soldering iron kits.  I've used one like this and it's works great.  http://www.frys.com/product/6582353?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG  You don't need anyting really fancier than that.  Then hit up youtube on soldering/desoldering tips and you'll see it's all really easy.

You can't really do any damage unless you're futzing around and burning your board because of a really high voltage soldering iron.  Try not to use anything over 35 watts with circuit board work.

Once you see how big and obvious the solder points are, you can't miss.

Good luck!  I'm about 99 percent positive that this will fix your problem as the AN1X is known for this.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Clinton <cbright9@...> wrote:

 

Yeah I noticed that about one of the malfunctioning pots. Unfortunately I'm awful at soldering and might make it worse. On the other hand I don't really have much to lose do I? Maybe I'll give it a try. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Rey Perez <ichibanrei@...> wrote:

 

Clinton, I had the same issue on 4 of the encoders when I bought my AN1X.  My number 4 would only work when pressed down and even then the value was all over the place.

You don't need to replace anything if you have a soldering iron.  Simply re-solder your 6 encoder and that should fix it.  I don't know why but the encoders lose proper contact to the board over time.  While you're in there, do it to all the encoders.  That's what I did and it now works good as new.  I hope this helps.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Clinton <cbright9@...> wrote:

 

Well the clean up didn't work. So I'm looking for someone to sell me their scrapped AN1X or the following part numbers NX818750 which has PN 2/5 printed in it, and NX818760 which has PN 3/5 printed on it. NX818760 is the board with the issue, but I figure while its in pieces I might as well just change both. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks,

Clinton

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Keep <ckeep@...> wrote:

 

It was three years ago, Clinton, and I seem to recall that supplies were low then, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're no longer available. If the clean up doesn't work, send me the part number I'll try Yamaha Canada again and see if they happen to have one left. If they do, I'll have them send it to me and then mail it to you.  

Best,

Chris


On 12/02/14, Clinton Bright <cbright9@...> wrote:

Hey thanks for the responses.
So Im going to try the pot cleaner first. I was wondering if I should pull the board out to do that?

And if that doesnt work Im going to try to track down the part. I called yamahaUSA and they said its discontinued. How long ago did you order it Chris?

And lastly, does anyone know where I could look online for the parts? I have a part number and Ive typed it into google and I get to a place called partsimple.com saying they have it but there is no pictured part, so Im a little skeptical. Has anyone dealt with this site before?

Thanks in advance
Clinton Bright
cbright9@...

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I looked up the part numbers and I don't know.  It sounds like its the board?  The description isn't clear.  Perhaps the vendor can send you a pic of the part.

On Feb 27, 2014 3:31 AM, "Clinton" <cbright9@...> wrote:

 

I found a website that has the part that corresponds to the part number I got from Yamaha. Do you think this has the pots already attached to it or do you think it might just be the board without the pots? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Rey Perez <ichibanrei@...> wrote:

 

I was pretty terrible at it myself, but in this case it's hard to make worse.  Even with a replacement, you'll have to remove the old encoder.  Make sure you pick up a solder pump.  It helps a great deal.  Not the baby nose sucker thing that comes with most soldering iron kits.  I've used one like this and it's works great.  http://www.frys.com/product/6582353?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG  You don't need anyting really fancier than that.  Then hit up youtube on soldering/desoldering tips and you'll see it's all really easy.

You can't really do any damage unless you're futzing around and burning your board because of a really high voltage soldering iron.  Try not to use anything over 35 watts with circuit board work.

Once you see how big and obvious the solder points are, you can't miss.

Good luck!  I'm about 99 percent positive that this will fix your problem as the AN1X is known for this.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Clinton <cbright9@...> wrote:

 

Yeah I noticed that about one of the malfunctioning pots. Unfortunately I'm awful at soldering and might make it worse. On the other hand I don't really have much to lose do I? Maybe I'll give it a try. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Rey Perez <ichibanrei@...> wrote:

 

Clinton, I had the same issue on 4 of the encoders when I bought my AN1X.  My number 4 would only work when pressed down and even then the value was all over the place.

You don't need to replace anything if you have a soldering iron.  Simply re-solder your 6 encoder and that should fix it.  I don't know why but the encoders lose proper contact to the board over time.  While you're in there, do it to all the encoders.  That's what I did and it now works good as new.  I hope this helps.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Clinton <cbright9@...> wrote:

 

Well the clean up didn't work. So I'm looking for someone to sell me their scrapped AN1X or the following part numbers NX818750 which has PN 2/5 printed in it, and NX818760 which has PN 3/5 printed on it. NX818760 is the board with the issue, but I figure while its in pieces I might as well just change both. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks,

Clinton

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Keep <ckeep@...> wrote:

 

It was three years ago, Clinton, and I seem to recall that supplies were low then, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're no longer available. If the clean up doesn't work, send me the part number I'll try Yamaha Canada again and see if they happen to have one left. If they do, I'll have them send it to me and then mail it to you.  

Best,

Chris


On 12/02/14, Clinton Bright <cbright9@...> wrote:

Hey thanks for the responses.
So Im going to try the pot cleaner first. I was wondering if I should pull the board out to do that?

And if that doesnt work Im going to try to track down the part. I called yamahaUSA and they said its discontinued. How long ago did you order it Chris?

And lastly, does anyone know where I could look online for the parts? I have a part number and Ive typed it into google and I get to a place called partsimple.com saying they have it but there is no pictured part, so Im a little skeptical. Has anyone dealt with this site before?

Thanks in advance
Clinton Bright
cbright9@...

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