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Low volume output

Low volume output

2014-01-17 by <william.bromell@...>

When connected to my interface (line level inputs), I have to boost AN1x by around 6 - 12 dB in order to get a strong signal. (I do this in Ableton, not via preamp for obvious reasons.) This is with the volume knob all the way up, including both factory patches and my own. The interface only accepts XLR, so I've got TS to XLR cables (I'm told this is better than using balanced cables to connect unbalanced gear).


Any ideas? I've heard the power supply might be the issue. 

[AN1x] Low volume output

2014-01-17 by Nate King

do you have the volume turned up the edit section? I forget exactly where it is, but in the soft buttons over on the right, there's a setting for master volume. I was editing patches recently and ran into a similar problem, and it was just that the volume on the edit side needed to be turned up (and the vca, and the master volume knob).


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:05 PM, <william.bromell@...> wrote:
 

When connected to my interface (line level inputs), I have to boost AN1x by around 6 - 12 dB in order to get a strong signal. (I do this in Ableton, not via preamp for obvious reasons.) This is with the volume knob all the way up, including both factory patches and my own. The interface only accepts XLR, so I've got TS to XLR cables (I'm told this is better than using balanced cables to connect unbalanced gear).


Any ideas? I've heard the power supply might be the issue. 




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Re: [AN1x] Low volume output

2014-01-17 by Jeff

On 17/01/2014 04:05, william.bromell@... wrote:
 

When connected to my interface (line level inputs), I have to boost AN1x by around 6 - 12 dB in order to get a strong signal. (I do this in Ableton, not via preamp for obvious reasons.) This is with the volume knob all the way up, including both factory patches and my own. The interface only accepts XLR, so I've got TS to XLR cables (I'm told this is better than using balanced cables to connect unbalanced gear).


Any ideas? I've heard the power supply might be the issue.
Hi William !
i don't think so : supply troubles would more likely cause software crashes.
Cheers.
J.F.



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Re: [AN1x] Low volume output

2014-01-17 by jammie


its a +4 balanced input that your -10dbu an1x is driving as an unbalanced signal
 
so it will be seen as a low level
 
your interface should be able to switch from +4dbu to -10dbu
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AN1x] Low volume output

 

On 17/01/2014 04:05, william.bromell@... wrote:
 

When connected to my interface (line level inputs), I have to boost AN1x by around 6 - 12 dB in order to get a strong signal. (I do this in Ableton, not via preamp for obvious reasons.) This is with the volume knob all the way up, including both factory patches and my own. The interface only accepts XLR, so I've got TS to XLR cables (I'm told this is better than using balanced cables to connect unbalanced gear).


Any ideas? I've heard the power supply might be the issue.
Hi William !
i don't think so : supply troubles would more likely cause software crashes.
Cheers.
J.F.



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RE: Low volume output

2014-01-17 by <william.bromell@...>

I just looked through the manual, and didn't see anything related to a master volume control. There was master tune, transpose, and velocity. Is it possible you're referring to velocity? Mine is set to factory default (i.e. wide).

RE: Low volume output

2014-01-17 by <william.bromell@...>

The interface can handle unbalanced signals. I know almost synths are unbalanced, and it hasn't had problems with any others before this. According to the manual:


The analog line inputs of the Babyface can be used with +4 dBu and -10 dBV signals. The electronic input stage can handle balanced (XLR, TRS jacks) and unbalanced (TS jacks) input sig- nals correctly. 

RE: Low volume output

2014-01-18 by <william.bromell@...>

Something else to note: When I'm programming with headphones, the volume has to be about 2/3 to all the way up in order for me to get a strong signal.


Does this sound normal?

Re: [AN1x] RE: Low volume output

2014-01-18 by Jeff

On 18/01/2014 01:11, william.bromell@... wrote:
 

Something else to note: When I'm programming with headphones, the volume has to be about 2/3 to all the way up in order for me to get a strong signal.


Does this sound normal?

It depends on the headphones impedance, the phones output can find it hard with low impedance phones. For your imput level problem it could be the same : the input impedance of your sound card may be too low for the AN1x line output.
Cheers.
J.F.



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Re: [AN1x] RE: Low volume output

2014-01-18 by jammie


being a new card and balanced i would say its a 10k balanced source
 
dont know what the an1x output impedance is
 
but impedance miss match can cause volume problems
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AN1x] RE: Low volume output

 

On 18/01/2014 01:11, william.bromell@... wrote:
 

Something else to note: When I'm programming with headphones, the volume has to be about 2/3 to all the way up in order for me to get a strong signal.


Does this sound normal?

It depends on the headphones impedance, the phones output can find it hard with low impedance phones. For your imput level problem it could be the same : the input impedance of your sound card may be too low for the AN1x line output.
Cheers.
J.F.



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Re: [AN1x] RE: Low volume output

2014-01-18 by achtung_999

Are your cables soldered the right way? Do you notice lack of bass in the sound in ableton? 
Compare between the Ableton version and the headphone out on the AN1x. 
If unbalanced to balanced cables are manufactured in a faulty way it results in loss of bass frequencies and loss of level.

Ernst


On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM, jammie <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
 

being a new card and balanced i would say its a 10k balanced source
 
dont know what the an1x output impedance is
 
but impedance miss match can cause volume problems
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AN1x] RE: Low volume output

 

On 18/01/2014 01:11, william.bromell@... wrote:
 

Something else to note: When I'm programming with headphones, the volume has to be about 2/3 to all the way up in order for me to get a strong signal.


Does this sound normal?

It depends on the headphones impedance, the phones output can find it hard with low impedance phones. For your imput level problem it could be the same : the input impedance of your sound card may be too low for the AN1x line output.
Cheers.
J.F.



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RE: Low volume output

2014-01-18 by <william.bromell@...>

The interface (RME Babyface) line/mic inputs have an input impedance of 2 k, if that's what you were wondering, and there's an instrument input on the side with an impedance of 470 k.


I assume the AN1x is low impedance? 

RE: Low volume output

2014-01-18 by <william.bromell@...>

My cables are cheap Hosa TS to XLR, so it's possible they're the culprit; I'll try some different unbalanced cables when I get the chance. 


However, there's no difference in volume or bass when comparing the Ableton output vs the headphone on the AN1x.

Re: [AN1x] RE: Low volume output

2014-01-19 by Jeff

On 18/01/2014 19:51, william.bromell@... wrote:
 

The interface (RME Babyface) line/mic inputs have an input impedance of 2 k, if that's what you were wondering, and there's an instrument input on the side with an impedance of 470 k.


I assume the AN1x is low impedance?

No. It's a line level output. Try the other (470 k) input, it should be OK.
Cheers.
J.F.



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Re: [AN1x] RE: Low volume output

2014-01-31 by <william.bromell@...>

What does it being a line level output have to do with it's impedance? Either way, I tried the instrument input and it didn't make any difference. Next I'll try better cables.