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Aftertouch is programmed at the Scene level. Use the Parameter Knob to
select the Voice/Scene Setup menu; use the Set No., Param, Source, and
Depth buttons to toggle through the Source value for each Set No. until
you identify 'AT' for Aftertouch as the Source; you may then use the
Param button to determine where AT is routed and the Depth button to
determine to what degree the Param value will be offset by AT. This can
be a negative or positive value (handy that is!) so you can reduce or
increase the mod depth by AT.

If you do not want AT to result in any modulation - change the Param
value to 'Param Off' or choose a new Source of your liking.

Personally, I find the lack of AT routings on the AN1x to be a bit
boring. As a consequence, I often try to use AT in my patches. Check
out MhtlLead in the JDLX-Musique folder here at Onelist for an example.
On the other hand, 'classic' analog synths didn't have AT - and often
didn't include Ribbon Controllers either - so patches without AT could
be considered more 'authentic' I suppose ;-)

Hope this helps,
Jon

tspeer wrote:

>
> From: tspeer <tspeer@...>
>
> I may be alone here- but I use my AN1-x as my main controller.
> -and I find its monophonic aftertouch ..a bit too easy to trigger.
>
> yes- I've read the manual- but I cannot seem to find out how to turn
> aftertouch off.
>
> Has anyone else run into this?
>
> Todd
> http://users.ev1.net/~xpander/smcchome.html
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My personal complaint about the aftertouch is that there is no way of
adjusting the sensitivity. By this I don't mean the effective level of the
parameter AT applies to a function -- everyone knows that you can adjust the
amount in the matrix. What I'm talking about is that the pressure strip is
too sensitive and sends aftertouch too easily with just a light touch. Has
anyone ordered a service manual for the AN yet? If so, maybe we could look
at the schematics and see what might be altered to adjust sensitivity.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jondl [mailto:jondl@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 7:11 PM
> To: AN1x-list@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] turn off aftertouch
>
>
> From: jondl <jondl@...>
>
> Aftertouch is programmed at the Scene level. Use the
> Parameter Knob to
> select the Voice/Scene Setup menu; use the Set No., Param, Source, and
> Depth buttons to toggle through the Source value for each Set
> No. until
> you identify 'AT' for Aftertouch as the Source; you may then use the
> Param button to determine where AT is routed and the Depth button to
> determine to what degree the Param value will be offset by
> AT. This can
> be a negative or positive value (handy that is!) so you can reduce or
> increase the mod depth by AT.
>
> If you do not want AT to result in any modulation - change the Param
> value to 'Param Off' or choose a new Source of your liking.
>
> Personally, I find the lack of AT routings on the AN1x to be a bit
> boring. As a consequence, I often try to use AT in my patches. Check
> out MhtlLead in the JDLX-Musique folder here at Onelist for
> an example.
> On the other hand, 'classic' analog synths didn't have AT - and often
> didn't include Ribbon Controllers either - so patches without AT could
> be considered more 'authentic' I suppose ;-)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Jon
>
> tspeer wrote:
> >
> > From: tspeer <tspeer@...>
> >
> > I may be alone here- but I use my AN1-x as my main controller.
> > -and I find its monophonic aftertouch ..a bit too easy to trigger.
> >
> > yes- I've read the manual- but I cannot seem to find out how to turn
> > aftertouch off.
> >
> > Has anyone else run into this?
> >
> > Todd
> > http://users.ev1.net/~xpander/smcchome.html
> >
> >
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"Edwards, Ed" wrote:

>

By this I don't mean the effective level of the

> parameter AT applies to a function -- everyone knows that you can adjust the
> amount in the matrix.

IMO, if 'everyone' knew that there would be no need for a mailing list :-)

What I'm talking about is that the pressure strip is

> too sensitive and sends aftertouch too easily with just a light touch.

Ah ha! Now I see what you are talking about. What I overlooked in
Todd's original post was the word 'controller'!

Has

> anyone ordered a service manual for the AN yet? If so, maybe we could look
> at the schematics and see what might be altered to adjust sensitivity.

I don't know if Yamaha would sell - or issue - a service manual to an
unregistered tech? Typically, Service Centers pay a fee for Service
Manuals. If they won't provide one then maybe someone on the list is on
friendly terms with a local tech who would 'loan' a service manual ;-)

Another possibility: many of the keyboard mechanisms used in popular
keyboards are manufactured by another company other than the 'brand'
name, i.e., Korg and Yamaha have been known to use Fatar mechanisms in
many popular synths over the years. I always enjoyed the keyboard's in
my old "Korg" gear particularly. If you can't find an AN1x Service
Manual then maybe we could identify the original manufacture of the
keyboard mechanism itself and try for that companies service manual.

The third alternate is to damn the torpedoes and wing it! ;-) I can
tell you with absolute certainty I'd botch the job big time - ha haha
LOL ;-)

There are other possibilities.

1) As Sebastian recommended, use the Record Filter on your software
Sequencer to remove the Aftertouch MIDI CC while recording. I wonder if
this option 'filters' the AT MIDI CC only while recording or does it
occur at the MIDI Thru simultaneously?

2) Use whatever graphical or logical editor is available in your
software sequencer to 'thin', or rather - reduce, the data after it has
been recorded.

3) Use a hardware data filter from the likes of Anatek (or whomever
manufactures them this month) between your AN1x and the destination kb/module.

4) Reduce the depth amount modulated by AT on the destination kb/module.

5) Use a MIDI Interface which allows for MIDI Processing. I use to own
an Opcode Studio 4 which I would run off my Mac using OMS. When OMS
would load the Studio 4 driver it would also enable an application named
Studio Patches Editor. This app permitted the user to create
*incredible* MIDI routings/layers/zones/filtering which would function
in real time if so desired. Now, I'm not current on this level of
functionality with the Emagic MIDI Interface but I'm pretty certain some
of the mid-range and high end MOTU models offer similar features.

Many years ago there use to be a number of manufacturers who produced
dedicated MIDI Patchbays (not to be confused with a MIDI Interface) that
offered the same type of functions the Studio 4 does but, and it's an
important 'but', they let you store your setting in program memory on
the box itself! The Studio 4 had a very limited program memory and most
of the good stuff could only be accessed from the Mac :-/ cost cutting
measure and all that...

Maybe some of these ideas will serve as workaround.

> > tspeer wrote:
> > >
> > > From: tspeer <tspeer@...>
> > >
> > > I may be alone here- but I use my AN1-x as my main controller.
> > > -and I find its monophonic aftertouch ..a bit too easy to trigger.

BTW - has anyone experimented with the Kbd Vel settings under the
Utility/Setup menu to see if there's any difference in the MIDI Values
transmitted or is it simply an internal setting? I simply dialed in a
setting I was comfortable with.

Regards,
Jon

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All excellent suggestions (thanks guys!!).

I will investigate the "scene Level" aftertouch switch off.. (hope it
kills the transmission of the aftertouch CC). All modern synths SHOULD have
the feature (to turn off transmission of aftertouch).

Yes- I can filter the Aftertouch in Cubase (I'm on a Mac).- BUT I ran
into the problem when demo-ing Sounddiver while attempting to program/edit a
Peavey Spectrum Synth (I cannot get the sounddiver profile to work with the
Spectrum synth- a topic for another list- but if anyone has seen this combo
work please let me know if there is hope). The Spectrum Synth has some
aftertouch triggered modulations I find poor & un-musical- and the AN1-x
aftertouch was so sensitive, I kept triggering the mods.
I run all my synths in & out of two Peavy MidimasterII patchbays (into
an Opcode Translator Pro-sync)- on a beige G3.
If I'm unsuccessful on the AN1-x front, I'll filter out the Aftertouch
using one of the Peavy MidimasterII's midi filters (as Jon suggested).

Todd :)
http://users.ev1.net/~xpander/smcchome.html

> From: jondl <jondl@...>
>
>
>
> "Edwards, Ed" wrote:
>>
> By this I don't mean the effective level of the
>> parameter AT applies to a function -- everyone knows that you can adjust the
>> amount in the matrix.
>
> IMO, if 'everyone' knew that there would be no need for a mailing list :-)
>
> What I'm talking about is that the pressure strip is
>> too sensitive and sends aftertouch too easily with just a light touch.
>
> Ah ha! Now I see what you are talking about. What I overlooked in
> Todd's original post was the word 'controller'!
>
> Has
>> anyone ordered a service manual for the AN yet? If so, maybe we could look
>> at the schematics and see what might be altered to adjust sensitivity.
>
> I don't know if Yamaha would sell - or issue - a service manual to an
> unregistered tech? Typically, Service Centers pay a fee for Service
> Manuals. If they won't provide one then maybe someone on the list is on
> friendly terms with a local tech who would 'loan' a service manual ;-)
>
> Another possibility: many of the keyboard mechanisms used in popular
> keyboards are manufactured by another company other than the 'brand'
> name, i.e., Korg and Yamaha have been known to use Fatar mechanisms in
> many popular synths over the years. I always enjoyed the keyboard's in
> my old "Korg" gear particularly. If you can't find an AN1x Service
> Manual then maybe we could identify the original manufacture of the
> keyboard mechanism itself and try for that companies service manual.
>
> The third alternate is to damn the torpedoes and wing it! ;-) I can
> tell you with absolute certainty I'd botch the job big time - ha haha
> LOL ;-)
>
> There are other possibilities.
>
> 1) As Sebastian recommended, use the Record Filter on your software
> Sequencer to remove the Aftertouch MIDI CC while recording. I wonder if
> this option 'filters' the AT MIDI CC only while recording or does it
> occur at the MIDI Thru simultaneously?
>
> 2) Use whatever graphical or logical editor is available in your
> software sequencer to 'thin', or rather - reduce, the data after it has
> been recorded.
>
> 3) Use a hardware data filter from the likes of Anatek (or whomever
> manufactures them this month) between your AN1x and the destination kb/module.
>
> 4) Reduce the depth amount modulated by AT on the destination kb/module.
>
> 5) Use a MIDI Interface which allows for MIDI Processing. I use to own
> an Opcode Studio 4 which I would run off my Mac using OMS. When OMS
> would load the Studio 4 driver it would also enable an application named
> Studio Patches Editor. This app permitted the user to create
> *incredible* MIDI routings/layers/zones/filtering which would function
> in real time if so desired. Now, I'm not current on this level of
> functionality with the Emagic MIDI Interface but I'm pretty certain some
> of the mid-range and high end MOTU models offer similar features.
>
> Many years ago there use to be a number of manufacturers who produced
> dedicated MIDI Patchbays (not to be confused with a MIDI Interface) that
> offered the same type of functions the Studio 4 does but, and it's an
> important 'but', they let you store your setting in program memory on
> the box itself! The Studio 4 had a very limited program memory and most
> of the good stuff could only be accessed from the Mac :-/ cost cutting
> measure and all that...
>
> Maybe some of these ideas will serve as workaround.
>
>>> tspeer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: tspeer <tspeer@...>
>>>>
>>>> I may be alone here- but I use my AN1-x as my main controller.
>>>> -and I find its monophonic aftertouch ..a bit too easy to trigger.
>
> BTW - has anyone experimented with the Kbd Vel settings under the
> Utility/Setup menu to see if there's any difference in the MIDI Values
> transmitted or is it simply an internal setting? I simply dialed in a
> setting I was comfortable with.
>
> Regards,
> Jon
>
> --
> http://www.jdlx-musique.com/