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Trouble Understanding Split Mode

Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-18 by vivaknievel

Hello,

I'm finding my way around the interface much more smoothly than expected. However, one thing that seems simple that's got me stumped is Split Mode. I've read other threads here and used Google, and read the related sections of the manual multiple times - can't seem to find a clear reference.

So far I'm understanding that the two voices each need to be stored to their own scene. I've then tried assigning the layers for each to either dual or split, and I've tinkered with Keyboard Mode. All that I can successfully get is morphing to work with the modulation wheel, but the sound is still combined across the board, instead of being split.

Is there a way to actually do this with any sound you want, or am I misunderstanding the Split function? Am I merely misunderstanding the procedure itself?

Thanks in advance, for any advice you can give.

Re: [AN1x] Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-19 by Jeff

Hi !
a sound patch has 2 "scenes", each one either with the same sound data
(standard sound , the same on the whole keyboard) or different ones (in
split or layer mode). The mod wheel can be programmed to "morph" between
the 2 different sounds in layer mode, or not, but only when both "scene"
switches are pressed together (and both LEDs are ON). Turn OFF one of
the scenes and make a try.
The modulation matrix is a bit complex... and the manual not so clear.
Cheers.
J.F.

vivaknievel a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm finding my way around the interface much more smoothly than
> expected. However, one thing that seems simple that's got me stumped
> is Split Mode. I've read other threads here and used Google, and read
> the related sections of the manual multiple times - can't seem to find
> a clear reference.
>
> So far I'm understanding that the two voices each need to be stored to
> their own scene. I've then tried assigning the layers for each to
> either dual or split, and I've tinkered with Keyboard Mode. All that I
> can successfully get is morphing to work with the modulation wheel,
> but the sound is still combined across the board, instead of being split.
>
> Is there a way to actually do this with any sound you want, or am I
> misunderstanding the Split function? Am I merely misunderstanding the
> procedure itself?
>
> Thanks in advance, for any advice you can give.
>
>

Re: Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-19 by Ms. J Luckett

Thanks, Jeff! I kept tinkering with it, after my post, and eventually
got it to work. I pushed the "Store" button and "Yes" after every
single action I took, including a final one, on the voice itself.
Somewhere in there, it worked. I believe my problem was that
earlier, my understanding was that while you are on the voice patch,
storing voices to scenes would automatically associate those scenes
with the currently selected voice patch. But, it now makes sense
that, even though you're not prompted to do so, you still need to
select "Store" one final time on the voice patch, so that it will
overwrite everything else, and accept your Scene assignments as being
associated with this voice patch.

Yes, as I delve further into the manual's sections which cover
modulation and step sequencing, I'm also finding it's not as clear as
some of the other sections. I'm off to a good start, though! I will
do more reading of the manual, the Mailing List posts, Google, and
hands-on experimenting!

Thanks very much!

Jammes

Re: [AN1x] Re: Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-20 by Jeff

Ms. J Luckett a écrit :
> I pushed the "Store" button and "Yes" after every
> single action I took, including a final one, on the voice itself.
It's not useful, unless you have some supply troubles... Edit your sound
patch quietly and once finished push "store"...
> I'm also finding it's not as clear as
> some of the other sections.
The whole manual is not so clear, there is little logic in it : page 19,
then go to page 72, then back to page 30... They should have done 2
parts, basic level use and in depth programming, but both are more or
less mixed together. I guess every guy who has worked on some part of
the software or hardware has issued its paper, put it together, 2
staples and it's over, you got an user manual. OK it's a complex
instrument, far more complex than it looks, but ...make it simple!
Cheers.
J.F.

[AN1x] Re: Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-23 by vivaknievel

I agree, that would have been a better approach! Cheers to you! - Jammes


> The whole manual is not so clear, there is little logic in it : page 19,
> then go to page 72, then back to page 30... They should have done 2
> parts, basic level use and in depth programming, but both are more or
> less mixed together. I guess every guy who has worked on some part of
> the software or hardware has issued its paper, put it together, 2
> staples and it's over, you got an user manual. OK it's a complex
> instrument, far more complex than it looks, but ...make it simple!
> Cheers.
> J.F.
>

Re: [AN1x] Re: Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-24 by Gerald Raucamp

On Wed May 23 2012, vivaknievel <jammesluckett@...> wrote:
> I agree, that would have been a better approach! Cheers to you! - Jammes
>
>
> > The whole manual is not so clear, there is little logic in it : page 19,
> > then go to page 72, then back to page 30... They should have done 2
> > parts, basic level use and in depth programming, but both are more or
> > less mixed together. I guess every guy who has worked on some part of
> > the software or hardware has issued its paper, put it together, 2
> > staples and it's over, you got an user manual. OK it's a complex
> > instrument, far more complex than it looks, but ...make it simple!
> > Cheers.
> > J.F.
> >
>

Perhaps this mailinglist could create some online documents on how to
program the machine, from basic level to in depth programming? A wiki
would be nice :D

I've known a couple of links which teach a little bit of basic AN1x
programming, but they've been lost to the geocities reform. Long live
the wayback machine though :D

http://web.archive.org/web/20071228173325/http:/www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/tut.htm

and an mtsu.edu archived link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020812114731/http://www.mtsu.edu/~dsmitche/rim419/Labs/419Lab12.html



--
Gerald Raucamp - cavey@...
http://www.cavey.nl

[AN1x] Re: Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-25 by jondl_2000

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Raucamp <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed May 23 2012, vivaknievel <jammesluckett@...> wrote:
> > I agree, that would have been a better approach! Cheers to you! - Jammes
> >
> >
> > > The whole manual is not so clear, there is little logic in it : page 19,
> > > then go to page 72, then back to page 30... They should have done 2
> > > parts, basic level use and in depth programming, but both are more or
> > > less mixed together. I guess every guy who has worked on some part of
> > > the software or hardware has issued its paper, put it together, 2
> > > staples and it's over, you got an user manual. OK it's a complex
> > > instrument, far more complex than it looks, but ...make it simple!
> > > Cheers.
> > > J.F.
> > >
> >
>
> Perhaps this mailinglist could create some online documents on how to
> program the machine, from basic level to in depth programming? A wiki
> would be nice :D
>
> I've known a couple of links which teach a little bit of basic AN1x
> programming, but they've been lost to the geocities reform. Long live
> the wayback machine though :D
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20071228173325/http:/www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/tut.htm
>
> and an mtsu.edu archived link:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20020812114731/http://www.mtsu.edu/~dsmitche/rim419/Labs/419Lab12.html
>
>
>
> --
> Gerald Raucamp - cavey@...
> http://www.cavey.nl

Gerald,

Your suggestion is very worthwhile.

Some years ago I maintained a web site, nothing more than a vanity project, for the AN1x. All of the available resources were converted to this mailing list. Specifically, the resources available from Yahoo! Groups were used. To this ends the FAQ was converted to the Database here at Yahoo! Groups and many of the old 'Tips & Tricks' HTML pages from that old web page were moved into the Files section:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Tips%20and%20Tricks/

The link you provided (yea! Wayback Machine) are very good too - and should be included.

A Wiki is a solid approach - or further exploiting the Database feature at AN1x-list - either would be useful.

What idea's do you have regarding the content of said programming docs? I'd consider contributing some time and effort to support the administration of this addition to AN1x-list.

Regards,

Jon

Re: Trouble Understanding Split Mode

2012-05-26 by Ms. J Luckett

Ah, The Wayback Machine - good thinking... and thank you, for
sharing! I found old broken links, and realized there was likely a
lot of great content lost to the fall of the early Internet titans.
I'll see if any of them were archived and will share, if so.

A Wiki would be fantastic. I'd love to contribute, once I've been
using it long enough to write about it reliably. :)

- Jammes