In search of OS v1.04 bin file
2009-10-28 by yekuku

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2009-10-28 by yekuku
2009-10-28 by Jeff
>
>
> Hi guys,
> I have contacted my local yamaha dealer in order to purchase the v1.04
> OS replacement eprom, and they told me that it is not available
> anymore, so I am stuck.
>
> If anybody can supply the OS v1.04 bin file, I would be very grateful.
> I have an eprom programmer , so if anybody else needs it , I would be
> happy to make a few copies and post them to whoever that may need them.
>
> Thanks in advance :)
>
>
2009-10-30 by jondl_2000
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
>
> Hi !
> ± 2 years ago i have suggested to do something like that...
> Unfortunately, if i can use an EPROM programmer at work i don't have the
> last issue of the OS on my synth...
> But on another hand don't expect too much by updating the software, if
> yours works naturally.
> @+
> J.F.
>
> yekuku a écrit :
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > I have contacted my local yamaha dealer in order to purchase the v1.04
> > OS replacement eprom, and they told me that it is not available
> > anymore, so I am stuck.
> >
> > If anybody can supply the OS v1.04 bin file, I would be very grateful.
> > I have an eprom programmer , so if anybody else needs it , I would be
> > happy to make a few copies and post them to whoever that may need them.
> >
> > Thanks in advance :)
> >
> >
>
2009-10-31 by Juan Pablo Cuervo
--- On Fri, 10/30/09, jondl_2000 <jondl_2000@...> wrote:
From: jondl_2000 <jondl_2000@...>
Subject: Re: [AN1x] In search of OS v1.04 bin file
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 6:29 PM
I think the issue with this proposal is that of time and effort - and perhaps trust in that the exchange of the EPROM would be handled adequately.
I've the v1.04 EPROM installed and I retained the v1.02 that was factory delivered. In theory I could fallback from one to the other, but I can't say I'm in any hurry to disassemble my AN1x. And the potential of creating a cottage industry of EPROM replacements that are mostly unwarranted is even less appealing... not the direction I'd like to see this mailing devolve into.
Just my opinion, not trying to impugn anybody integrity or good intentions.
Regards,
Jon
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou ps.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi !
> ± 2 years ago i have suggested to do something like that...
> Unfortunately, if i can use an EPROM programmer at work i don't have the
> last issue of the OS on my synth...
> But on another hand don't expect too much by updating the software, if
> yours works naturally.
> @+
> J.F.
>
> yekuku a écrit :
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > I have contacted my local yamaha dealer in order to purchase the v1.04
> > OS replacement eprom, and they told me that it is not available
> > anymore, so I am stuck.
> >
> > If anybody can supply the OS v1.04 bin file, I would be very grateful.
> > I have an eprom programmer , so if anybody else needs it , I would be
> > happy to make a few copies and post them to whoever that may need them.
> >
> > Thanks in advance :)
> >
> >
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-10-31 by Ed Edwards
>No virus found in this incoming message.
> Hi !
> ± 2 years ago i have suggested to do something like that...
> Unfortunately, if i can use an EPROM programmer at work i don't have the
> last issue of the OS on my synth...
> But on another hand don't expect too much by updating the software, if
> yours works naturally.
> @+
> J.F.
>
> yekuku a écrit :
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > I have contacted my local yamaha dealer in order to purchase the v1.04
> > OS replacement eprom, and they told me that it is not available
> > anymore, so I am stuck.
> >
> > If anybody can supply the OS v1.04 bin file, I would be very grateful.
> > I have an eprom programmer , so if anybody else needs it , I would be
> > happy to make a few copies and post them to whoever that may need them.
> >
> > Thanks in advance :)
> >
> >
>
2009-10-31 by jondl_2000
>Ha haha :-)
> Pha and phoo I say to my good friend, Jon.
>
> It won't degrade this list in any way by helping abandoned synthisists bringThat's all well and good...
> their machines up to "final upgrade from factory" level.
>
>...so how do you create a bin from an EEPROM?
> I have participated on many synth lists that exchanged eprom bin files and
> eeproms for the purpose of helping out a fellow user whom the manufacturer
> has abandoned to "go buy our new one, your old junk isn't worth supporting".
2009-10-31 by Ed Edwards
>Ha haha :-)
> Pha and phoo I say to my good friend, Jon.
>
> It won't degrade this list in any way by helping abandoned synthisistsbring
> their machines up to "final upgrade from factory" level.That's all well and good...
>
>supporting".
> I have participated on many synth lists that exchanged eprom bin files and
> eeproms for the purpose of helping out a fellow user whom the manufacturer
> has abandoned to "go buy our new one, your old junk isn't worth
2009-10-31 by jondl_2000
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Edwards" <gleobeam@...> wrote:
>
> You need to be (or have a friend who is) a nerd that has access to an eeprom
> reader/programmer. As a reader, it will dump the internal bin(ary) program
> to some software storage device. So to obtain the bin file, the actual
> eeprom needs to be plugged into the unit. To program a chip obviously one
> needs a blank eeprom chip and this can be tough because it has to be the
> exact match for what it replaces. Some of these have passed into
> obsolescence. I don't think the blank for the AN1x is obsolete.
> Unfortunately I no longer am employed in this end of electronics. What we
> need is a volunteer on the list to step up and go with the project. It
> can't be a "for profit" venture because never have I ever seen more than a
> few dozen (at the most) folks who needed the upgrade. This isn't to say
> that only a few dozen synths are not fully upgraded. the fact is that
> hundreds or thousands are behind, but what the results become are the few
> who subscribe to a list and are "brave" enough to attempt this. Only one
> guy needs to give up his eeprom for reading the bin out of. Then as many
> duplicates can be made as requested. Once the user receives the duplicate
> it is up to them to unplug the old chip and replace it (really not a big
> deal for almost anyone coordinated enough to play a keyboard).
>
>
>
> So I hope this helps.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of jondl_2000
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:02 AM
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x] In search of OS v1.04 bin file
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Ed
> Edwards" <gleobeam@> wrote:
> >
> > Pha and phoo I say to my good friend, Jon.
> >
>
> Ha haha :-)
>
> > It won't degrade this list in any way by helping abandoned synthisists
> bring
> > their machines up to "final upgrade from factory" level.
> >
>
> That's all well and good...
>
> >
> > I have participated on many synth lists that exchanged eprom bin files and
> > eeproms for the purpose of helping out a fellow user whom the manufacturer
> > has abandoned to "go buy our new one, your old junk isn't worth
> supporting".
>
> ...so how do you create a bin from an EEPROM?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2469 - Release Date: 10/30/09
> 07:52:00
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
2009-10-31 by Ed Edwards
>eeprom
> You need to be (or have a friend who is) a nerd that has access to an
> reader/programmer. As a reader, it will dump the internal bin(ary) program[mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] On
> to some software storage device. So to obtain the bin file, the actual
> eeprom needs to be plugged into the unit. To program a chip obviously one
> needs a blank eeprom chip and this can be tough because it has to be the
> exact match for what it replaces. Some of these have passed into
> obsolescence. I don't think the blank for the AN1x is obsolete.
> Unfortunately I no longer am employed in this end of electronics. What we
> need is a volunteer on the list to step up and go with the project. It
> can't be a "for profit" venture because never have I ever seen more than a
> few dozen (at the most) folks who needed the upgrade. This isn't to say
> that only a few dozen synths are not fully upgraded. the fact is that
> hundreds or thousands are behind, but what the results become are the few
> who subscribe to a list and are "brave" enough to attempt this. Only one
> guy needs to give up his eeprom for reading the bin out of. Then as many
> duplicates can be made as requested. Once the user receives the duplicate
> it is up to them to unplug the old chip and replace it (really not a big
> deal for almost anyone coordinated enough to play a keyboard).
>
>
>
> So I hope this helps.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Of jondl_2000"Ed
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:02 AM
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x] In search of OS v1.04 bin file
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
> Edwards" <gleobeam@> wrote:and
> >
> > Pha and phoo I say to my good friend, Jon.
> >
>
> Ha haha :-)
>
> > It won't degrade this list in any way by helping abandoned synthisists
> bring
> > their machines up to "final upgrade from factory" level.
> >
>
> That's all well and good...
>
> >
> > I have participated on many synth lists that exchanged eprom bin files
> > eeproms for the purpose of helping out a fellow user whom themanufacturer
> > has abandoned to "go buy our new one, your old junk isn't worthNo virus found in this incoming message.
> supporting".
>
> ...so how do you create a bin from an EEPROM?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2469 - Release Date: 10/30/09
> 07:52:00
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
2009-10-31 by Ed Edwards
>eeprom
> You need to be (or have a friend who is) a nerd that has access to an
> reader/programmer. As a reader, it will dump the internal bin(ary) program[mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] On
> to some software storage device. So to obtain the bin file, the actual
> eeprom needs to be plugged into the unit. To program a chip obviously one
> needs a blank eeprom chip and this can be tough because it has to be the
> exact match for what it replaces. Some of these have passed into
> obsolescence. I don't think the blank for the AN1x is obsolete.
> Unfortunately I no longer am employed in this end of electronics. What we
> need is a volunteer on the list to step up and go with the project. It
> can't be a "for profit" venture because never have I ever seen more than a
> few dozen (at the most) folks who needed the upgrade. This isn't to say
> that only a few dozen synths are not fully upgraded. the fact is that
> hundreds or thousands are behind, but what the results become are the few
> who subscribe to a list and are "brave" enough to attempt this. Only one
> guy needs to give up his eeprom for reading the bin out of. Then as many
> duplicates can be made as requested. Once the user receives the duplicate
> it is up to them to unplug the old chip and replace it (really not a big
> deal for almost anyone coordinated enough to play a keyboard).
>
>
>
> So I hope this helps.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Of jondl_2000"Ed
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:02 AM
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x] In search of OS v1.04 bin file
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
> Edwards" <gleobeam@> wrote:and
> >
> > Pha and phoo I say to my good friend, Jon.
> >
>
> Ha haha :-)
>
> > It won't degrade this list in any way by helping abandoned synthisists
> bring
> > their machines up to "final upgrade from factory" level.
> >
>
> That's all well and good...
>
> >
> > I have participated on many synth lists that exchanged eprom bin files
> > eeproms for the purpose of helping out a fellow user whom themanufacturer
> > has abandoned to "go buy our new one, your old junk isn't worthNo virus found in this incoming message.
> supporting".
>
> ...so how do you create a bin from an EEPROM?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2469 - Release Date: 10/30/09
> 07:52:00
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
2009-10-31 by Jeff
>
>
> I have to ask someone in the biz for this info.
>
> They are Electronicly Eraseable and Programmable Read Only Memories. They
> vary in the amount of storage (64k was common back in the mid 80's). The
> chip WILL be stamped with a code that will reveal the amount of storage.
> But there are further subsets which include stuff like cyclic redundancy
> check or negative/positive or other stuff such as sub memory. The
> electronics person involved in this area will be very familiar with the
> parameters.
>
> _____
>
> From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of jondl_2000
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:55 AM
> To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [AN1x] In search of OS v1.04 bin file
>
> Many thanks Ed... I've got my v1.02 EEPROM in front of me right now,
> is has
> scarce markings - only a sticker that says copyright 1997 Yamaha XS467 D O
> How do you identify the appropriate blank device type?
>
> Jon
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>
> ps.com, "Ed
> Edwards" <gleobeam@...> wrote:
> >
> > You need to be (or have a friend who is) a nerd that has access to an
> eeprom
> > reader/programmer. As a reader, it will dump the internal bin(ary)
> program
> > to some software storage device. So to obtain the bin file, the actual
> > eeprom needs to be plugged into the unit. To program a chip
> obviously one
> > needs a blank eeprom chip and this can be tough because it has to be the
> > exact match for what it replaces. Some of these have passed into
> > obsolescence. I don't think the blank for the AN1x is obsolete.
> > Unfortunately I no longer am employed in this end of electronics.
> What we
> > need is a volunteer on the list to step up and go with the project. It
> > can't be a "for profit" venture because never have I ever seen more
> than a
> > few dozen (at the most) folks who needed the upgrade. This isn't to say
> > that only a few dozen synths are not fully upgraded. the fact is that
> > hundreds or thousands are behind, but what the results become are
> the few
> > who subscribe to a list and are "brave" enough to attempt this. Only one
> > guy needs to give up his eeprom for reading the bin out of. Then as many
> > duplicates can be made as requested. Once the user receives the
> duplicate
> > it is up to them to unplug the old chip and replace it (really not a big
> > deal for almost anyone coordinated enough to play a keyboard).
> >
> >
> >
> > So I hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>
> ps.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of jondl_2000
> > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:02 AM
> > To: AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com
> > Subject: Re: [AN1x] In search of OS v1.04 bin file
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogrou <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
> "Ed
> > Edwards" <gleobeam@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Pha and phoo I say to my good friend, Jon.
> > >
> >
> > Ha haha :-)
> >
> > > It won't degrade this list in any way by helping abandoned synthisists
> > bring
> > > their machines up to "final upgrade from factory" level.
> > >
> >
> > That's all well and good...
> >
> > >
> > > I have participated on many synth lists that exchanged eprom bin files
> and
> > > eeproms for the purpose of helping out a fellow user whom the
> manufacturer
> > > has abandoned to "go buy our new one, your old junk isn't worth
> > supporting".
> >
> > ...so how do you create a bin from an EEPROM?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2469 - Release Date:
> 10/30/09
> > 07:52:00
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2469 - Release Date: 10/30/09
> 07:52:00
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
2009-10-31 by pcbye111
2009-10-31 by jondl_2000
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "pcbye111" <pcbye@...> wrote:
>
> Folks:
>
> I have the 1.04 Bin File.
>
> From what I understand, I purchased the last two or three upgrade chips Yamaha had in stock in Japan well over a year ago.
>
> If I recall, it needs a pretty obscure E-PROM Chip to burn the bin file to -- 1024k. The factory chip used a Burn Once Chips -- No window.
>
> Contact me off line if you want it.
>
> I will dig out some more info later also -- chip, etc.
>
> Regards;
>
> Peter
>
2009-11-05 by yekuku
2009-11-05 by David Fenton
On Nov 5, 2009, at 3:19 PM, "yekuku" <yekuku@...> wrote:
Wow , I had not expected so many replies when I started this thread.
Thanx to Peter the bin file is available.
The required prom is a tricky one:
OKI M27C802CZ
42 pin dip - 80 ns
I am trying to find a compatible eprom, so that I can burn and test its operation.
This might take a while since I need to buy an dip42 adapter for my eprom burner and test compatibility of various available eproms.
As I said in my first post, I am willing to
make a few copies and post them to whoever may need them.
It is all about sharing....
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-11-06 by yekuku
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, David Fenton <difo567@...> wrote:
>
> What is the advantage of updating the os/EPROM?
>
> Thx,
> D
>
> On Nov 5, 2009, at 3:19 PM, "yekuku" <yekuku@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Wow , I had not expected so many replies when I started this thread.
>
> Thanx to Peter the bin file is available.
>
> The required prom is a tricky one:
>
> OKI M27C802CZ
> 42 pin dip - 80 ns
>
> I am trying to find a compatible eprom, so that I can burn and test its operation.
> This might take a while since I need to buy an dip42 adapter for my eprom burner and test compatibility of various available eproms.
>
> As I said in my first post, I am willing to
> make a few copies and post them to whoever may need them.
> It is all about sharing....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
2009-11-06 by Jeff
>
>
> What is the advantage of updating the os/EPROM?
>
> Thx,
> D
>
> On Nov 5, 2009, at 3:19 PM, "yekuku" <yekuku@...
> <mailto:yekuku%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Wow , I had not expected so many replies when I started this thread.
>
> Thanx to Peter the bin file is available.
>
> The required prom is a tricky one:
>
> OKI M27C802CZ
> 42 pin dip - 80 ns
>
> I am trying to find a compatible eprom, so that I can burn and test
> its operation.
> This might take a while since I need to buy an dip42 adapter for my
> eprom burner and test compatibility of various available eproms.
>
> As I said in my first post, I am willing to
> make a few copies and post them to whoever may need them.
> It is all about sharing....
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>