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> Message du 31/01/08 18:34
> De : "Johanes Emmanuelli"
> A : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Copie à :
> Objet : [AN1x] lead synths patches as promised!
>
> > Hi all,jeff,I finally did it!i got the latest version of an1xEdit from
> here and removed the old 1.02 NT4 version and was able to make my
> patches bank for all to enjoy.Ok.The sounds on some patches may sound
> the same to the untrained ear but listen in your headset and you will
> tell the differance after two excedrin pills;0).Most are LOUD like I
> like them with fast attack and sharp if no release just like on poly
> and legato synths of old!The sounds were made using the MEGADRONE
> patch and the sync lead patches.It is not a complete sound set yet but
> I wanted to deliver on my promise.Any suggestions and tips would be
> welcomed just remember..I like thick rich fat analog sounds!Anybody
> ever played with Casio CZ1,CZ101 or CZ5000/3000??There is a SYNTH
> BRASS sound that I want to make from those boards..it is only two
> osc(DCOs)so it should be easy.The SK1 sampler BRASS ENS tone is the
> same only sampled.Enjoy blowing your speakers and your minds!!
>
>

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello!
> OK, that's fine for your patches!
> For the Casio CZ, don't be fooled by the old age of these synths,
they are relatively complex (i have one, still going strong since it
was made in 1981!). They were among the first "100% digital"
polysynths available, and even if Casio had tried to keep as close as
possible to the "analog world", it's sometimes different. A typical CZ
whatever its number has 2 parallel DCO - DCF - DCA chains, ie each
oscillator has its own filter and control amplifier, each one
controlled by its own E.G.. The envelopes are not the classic ADSR
type but can be made of 8 segments, each defined by the upper and
lower level and the slope in between. And, last but not least, there
is more waveforms (10)available than the usual square - saw - sine,
which are present of course. Each oscillator has 2 outputs, either for
2 different waveforms or the same on both outputs but with one detuned.
> That's the reason why i have kept my CZ: some sounds are impossible
to get with most of the other synths, mostly because of the complex
envelopes. You can find a lot more waveforms on other digital synths,
but the Casio ones are not "perfect" on the whole frequency range (for
example the saw turns into a "quarter sine" at high frequency) giving
a curious "analog" feeling!
> But that's worth trying, specially if you can compare "live" with a
real Casio.
> And if you really like the "CZ sound", buy one 2nd hand, they're
quite cheap despite being "vintage" instruments, and very reliable.
IMO the most interesting are the earlier (CZ101 or 1000, compact sized
with only 4 octaves) or the last , the CZ1 (dynamic keyboard with
aftertouch, 16 voices). The others have some "extra" features
(on-board sequencer or effects) not very useful today.
> Cheers
> J.F.
>
>
> > Message du 31/01/08 18:34
> > De : "Johanes Emmanuelli"
> > A : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Copie à :
> > Objet : [AN1x] lead synths patches as promised!
> >
> > > Hi all,jeff,I finally did it!i got the latest version of
an1xEdit from
> > here and removed the old 1.02 NT4 version and was able to make my
> > patches bank for all to enjoy.Ok.The sounds on some patches may sound
> > the same to the untrained ear but listen in your headset and you will
> > tell the differance after two excedrin pills;0).Most are LOUD like I
> > like them with fast attack and sharp if no release just like on poly
> > and legato synths of old!The sounds were made using the MEGADRONE
> > patch and the sync lead patches.It is not a complete sound set yet but
> > I wanted to deliver on my promise.Any suggestions and tips would be
> > welcomed just remember..I like thick rich fat analog sounds!Anybody
> > ever played with Casio CZ1,CZ101 or CZ5000/3000??There is a SYNTH
> > BRASS sound that I want to make from those boards..it is only two
> > osc(DCOs)so it should be easy.The SK1 sampler BRASS ENS tone is the
> > same only sampled.Enjoy blowing your speakers and your minds!!
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> Message du 01/02/08 20:50
> De : "Johanes Emmanuelli"
> A : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> Copie à :
> Objet : Re: [AN1x] lead synths patches as promised!
>
> > Crap!I thought so..I had the CZ101 4 times,the CZ3000 1 time(it had
> the synth brass sound as a PRESET!),cz230s 1 time,(it too has that
> preset but it is brass ensamble like in the SK1),and lastly I had the
> CZ1 1 time and for dirt cheap!!Oh well..Maybe some one knows of a
> SOFTWARE CZ1 synth?In the mean time,my lovely AN1x does the tricks I
> love and soon I will rebuild the case out of WOOD folks..I will post
> pics and instructions AFTER I do it first.I will make those aftertouch
> sensing pots as panel knobs too!
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello!
> > OK, that's fine for your patches!
> > For the Casio CZ, don't be fooled by the old age of these synths,
> they are relatively complex (i have one, still going strong since it
> was made in 1981!). They were among the first "100% digital"
> polysynths available, and even if Casio had tried to keep as close as
> possible to the "analog world", it's sometimes different. A typical CZ
> whatever its number has 2 parallel DCO - DCF - DCA chains, ie each
> oscillator has its own filter and control amplifier, each one
> controlled by its own E.G.. The envelopes are not the classic ADSR
> type but can be made of 8 segments, each defined by the upper and
> lower level and the slope in between. And, last but not least, there
> is more waveforms (10)available than the usual square - saw - sine,
> which are present of course. Each oscillator has 2 outputs, either for
> 2 different waveforms or the same on both outputs but with one detuned.
> > That's the reason why i have kept my CZ: some sounds are impossible
> to get with most of the other synths, mostly because of the complex
> envelopes. You can find a lot more waveforms on other digital synths,
> but the Casio ones are not "perfect" on the whole frequency range (for
> example the saw turns into a "quarter sine" at high frequency) giving
> a curious "analog" feeling!
> > But that's worth trying, specially if you can compare "live" with a
> real Casio.
> > And if you really like the "CZ sound", buy one 2nd hand, they're
> quite cheap despite being "vintage" instruments, and very reliable.
> IMO the most interesting are the earlier (CZ101 or 1000, compact sized
> with only 4 octaves) or the last , the CZ1 (dynamic keyboard with
> aftertouch, 16 voices). The others have some "extra" features
> (on-board sequencer or effects) not very useful today.
> > Cheers
> > J.F.
> >
> >
> > > Message du 31/01/08 18:34
> > > De : "Johanes Emmanuelli"
> > > A : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > Copie à :
> > > Objet : [AN1x] lead synths patches as promised!
> > >
> > > > Hi all,jeff,I finally did it!i got the latest version of
> an1xEdit from
> > > here and removed the old 1.02 NT4 version and was able to make my
> > > patches bank for all to enjoy.Ok.The sounds on some patches may sound
> > > the same to the untrained ear but listen in your headset and you will
> > > tell the differance after two excedrin pills;0).Most are LOUD like I
> > > like them with fast attack and sharp if no release just like on poly
> > > and legato synths of old!The sounds were made using the MEGADRONE
> > > patch and the sync lead patches.It is not a complete sound set yet but
> > > I wanted to deliver on my promise.Any suggestions and tips would be
> > > welcomed just remember..I like thick rich fat analog sounds!Anybody
> > > ever played with Casio CZ1,CZ101 or CZ5000/3000??There is a SYNTH
> > > BRASS sound that I want to make from those boards..it is only two
> > > osc(DCOs)so it should be easy.The SK1 sampler BRASS ENS tone is the
> > > same only sampled.Enjoy blowing your speakers and your minds!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> wrote:
>
>
> Crap... "of war and peace , the truth just twists" as said the
poet.. On my own CZ i've programmed the bass synth line sound of
"Phaedra" (by Tangerine Dream), using the envelope unusually to get a
fake echo, the "real" lead sound of the well known "Oxygen" by J.M.J.,
a Klaus Schulze space pad in "Moondawn"... just add a few external
reverb, there is none in any CZ synth, and here we are. Don't forget
these keyboards are 20 years old...
> Someone has posted a message one or 2 years ago about a project of
"old school" case for his AN1x, no more news.. I'll be interested in
such mods...
> One suggestion:
> the main part of the case , where the knobs and switches are , could
be a folded metal sheet, the main issue is the amount of rectangular
holes for these switches. If you have a friend in metal work job... or
a cooperative professional in your neighbourhood. Each side and the
front part under the keys can be simple pieces of wood, but that would
be a much more easier task for a DYIer.
> @+
> J.F.
>
>
>
>
> > Message du 01/02/08 20:50
> > De : "Johanes Emmanuelli"
> > A : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > Copie à :
> > Objet : Re: [AN1x] lead synths patches as promised!
> >
> > > Crap!I thought so..I had the CZ101 4 times,the CZ3000 1 time(it had
> > the synth brass sound as a PRESET!),cz230s 1 time,(it too has that
> > preset but it is brass ensamble like in the SK1),and lastly I had the
> > CZ1 1 time and for dirt cheap!!Oh well..Maybe some one knows of a
> > SOFTWARE CZ1 synth?In the mean time,my lovely AN1x does the tricks I
> > love and soon I will rebuild the case out of WOOD folks..I will post
> > pics and instructions AFTER I do it first.I will make those aftertouch
> > sensing pots as panel knobs too!
> >
> > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeff ...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello!
> > > OK, that's fine for your patches!
> > > For the Casio CZ, don't be fooled by the old age of these synths,
> > they are relatively complex (i have one, still going strong since it
> > was made in 1981!). They were among the first "100% digital"
> > polysynths available, and even if Casio had tried to keep as close as
> > possible to the "analog world", it's sometimes different. A typical CZ
> > whatever its number has 2 parallel DCO - DCF - DCA chains, ie each
> > oscillator has its own filter and control amplifier, each one
> > controlled by its own E.G.. The envelopes are not the classic ADSR
> > type but can be made of 8 segments, each defined by the upper and
> > lower level and the slope in between. And, last but not least, there
> > is more waveforms (10)available than the usual square - saw - sine,
> > which are present of course. Each oscillator has 2 outputs, either for
> > 2 different waveforms or the same on both outputs but with one
detuned.
> > > That's the reason why i have kept my CZ: some sounds are impossible
> > to get with most of the other synths, mostly because of the complex
> > envelopes. You can find a lot more waveforms on other digital synths,
> > but the Casio ones are not "perfect" on the whole frequency range (for
> > example the saw turns into a "quarter sine" at high frequency) giving
> > a curious "analog" feeling!
> > > But that's worth trying, specially if you can compare "live" with a
> > real Casio.
> > > And if you really like the "CZ sound", buy one 2nd hand, they're
> > quite cheap despite being "vintage" instruments, and very reliable.
> > IMO the most interesting are the earlier (CZ101 or 1000, compact sized
> > with only 4 octaves) or the last , the CZ1 (dynamic keyboard with
> > aftertouch, 16 voices). The others have some "extra" features
> > (on-board sequencer or effects) not very useful today.
> > > Cheers
> > > J.F.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Message du 31/01/08 18:34
> > > > De : "Johanes Emmanuelli"
> > > > A : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Copie à :
> > > > Objet : [AN1x] lead synths patches as promised!
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,jeff,I finally did it!i got the latest version of
> > an1xEdit from
> > > > here and removed the old 1.02 NT4 version and was able to make my
> > > > patches bank for all to enjoy.Ok.The sounds on some patches
may sound
> > > > the same to the untrained ear but listen in your headset and
you will
> > > > tell the differance after two excedrin pills;0).Most are LOUD
like I
> > > > like them with fast attack and sharp if no release just like
on poly
> > > > and legato synths of old!The sounds were made using the MEGADRONE
> > > > patch and the sync lead patches.It is not a complete sound set
yet but
> > > > I wanted to deliver on my promise.Any suggestions and tips
would be
> > > > welcomed just remember..I like thick rich fat analog
sounds!Anybody
> > > > ever played with Casio CZ1,CZ101 or CZ5000/3000??There is a SYNTH
> > > > BRASS sound that I want to make from those boards..it is only two
> > > > osc(DCOs)so it should be easy.The SK1 sampler BRASS ENS tone
is the
> > > > same only sampled.Enjoy blowing your speakers and your minds!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> For the Casio CZ, don't be fooled by the old age of these synths,

>
> I paid $450 recently (shipped). I¹ll sell for $350 shipped.
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>