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Just to follow up on this....a little history....not all synths transmit MIDI clock, only about half of my dozen synths do.   In general, early synths have left the clock master to the drum machines & recorders and let the synths sync to those.  Later synths that joined the class of "workstations" provided a MIDI clock to external devices as the workstations had internal MIDI sequencers.  Many non-workstations still rely on having an external MIDI clock if they were to sync to an external device.

The work around to have the AN1x receive external MIDI clock is a good viable alternative.

Bob
El Segundo, CA

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jon 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:10 PM
  Subject: [AN1x] Re: Midiclock


  --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "wllvandervliet" <willvandervliet@...> wrote:
  >
  > Can somebody help me out wiyh this?
  > 
  > With my AN1X i want to control my drumcomputer(Tempo).
  > 
  > With all my other synths i can do this, why not with the AN1X.
  > 
  > I use the midiout from the AN1X and send from there to my drumcomputer 
  > Midiin. Than i make on the drumcomputer the setting tempo= external.
  > But nothing happends, it won't evn start.
  > 
  > As i did say, with all my other synths i can do this.
  > Who can help me out.
  >

  The AN1x does not transmit MIDI Clock. You can synchronize the AN1x Arp/Seq to an 
  external clock - such as a drum computer - but not the other way around (as you've found.)

  Jon



   

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Its best to use the AN1X as a slave to MIDI clock i.e use your drumcomputer as the master clock and set the temp of the AN1X to MIDI.

Strangley the AN1X won't respond to MIDI start so the way to get around this is to hold down a key on the AN1X then press play on the main clock source and everything should spring into life.

A word of warning tho if your patch uses the tempo delay it sometimes can a bit tempremental and and trys to corrects the timing which resulting in little crackles as the delay keeps reseting itself. 

Rob.

"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:                                  Just to follow up on this....a little history....not all synths transmit MIDI clock, only about half of my dozen synths do.   In general, early synths have left the clock master to the drum machines & recorders and let the synths sync to those.  Later synths that joined the class of "workstations" provided a MIDI clock to external devices as the workstations had internal MIDI sequencers.  Many non-workstations still rely on having an external MIDI clock if they were to sync to an external device.
 
 The work around to have the AN1x receive external MIDI clock is a good viable alternative.
 
 Bob
 El Segundo, CA

 ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: Jon 
   To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:10 PM
   Subject: [AN1x] Re: Midiclock
 
 --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "wllvandervliet" <willvandervliet@...> wrote:
   >
   > Can somebody help me out wiyh this?
   > 
   > With my AN1X i want to control my drumcomputer(Tempo).
   > 
   > With all my other synths i can do this, why not with the AN1X.
   > 
   > I use the midiout from the AN1X and send from there to my drumcomputer 
   > Midiin. Than i make on the drumcomputer the setting tempo= external.
   > But nothing happends, it won't evn start.
   > 
   > As i did say, with all my other synths i can do this.
   > Who can help me out.
   >
 
 The AN1x does not transmit MIDI Clock. You can synchronize the AN1x Arp/Seq to an 
   external clock - such as a drum computer - but not the other way around (as you've found.)
 
 Jon
 
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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Rob Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
> A word of warning tho if your patch uses the tempo delay it sometimes can a bit 
tempremental and and trys to corrects the timing which resulting in little crackles as the 
delay keeps reseting itself. 
> 

This was supposedly fixed in OS V1.04 for the AN1x.

Jon

I didn't know they did an update for the OS!

Could someone please upload it into the file section of this DG? The Yamaha sites have nothing on them.

Thanks 
Rob.


Jon <jondl_2000@...> wrote:                                  --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Rob Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
 > A word of warning tho if your patch uses the tempo delay it sometimes can a bit 
 tempremental and and trys to corrects the timing which resulting in little crackles as the 
 delay keeps reseting itself. 
 > 
 
 This was supposedly fixed in OS V1.04 for the AN1x.
 
 Jon
 
 
     
                       

 		
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The upgrade is available from Yamaha.  It is on a M27C800 EPROM.

I think I paid about $40.00 USD each from Yamaha Parts for both of mine.

Peter


Rob Hill wrote:

> I didn't know they did an update for the OS!
>
> Could someone please upload it into the file section of this DG? The 
> Yamaha sites have nothing on them.
>
> Thanks
> Rob.
>
> Jon <jondl_2000@... <mailto:jondl_2000%40yahoo.com>> wrote: --- 
> In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>, Rob 
> Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
> > A word of warning tho if your patch uses the tempo delay it 
> sometimes can a bit
> tempremental and and trys to corrects the timing which resulting in 
> little crackles as the
> delay keeps reseting itself.
> >
>
> This was supposedly fixed in OS V1.04 for the AN1x.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
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Does the AN1x display what OS is currently resident?

Bob
El Segundo, CA

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Bye 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [AN1x] Re: Midiclock


  The upgrade is available from Yamaha. It is on a M27C800 EPROM.

  I think I paid about $40.00 USD each from Yamaha Parts for both of mine.

  Peter

  Rob Hill wrote:

  > I didn't know they did an update for the OS!
  >
  > Could someone please upload it into the file section of this DG? The 
  > Yamaha sites have nothing on them.
  >
  > Thanks
  > Rob.
  >
  > Jon <jondl_2000@... <mailto:jondl_2000%40yahoo.com>> wrote: --- 
  > In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>, Rob 
  > Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
  > > A word of warning tho if your patch uses the tempo delay it 
  > sometimes can a bit
  > tempremental and and trys to corrects the timing which resulting in 
  > little crackles as the
  > delay keeps reseting itself.
  > >
  >
  > This was supposedly fixed in OS V1.04 for the AN1x.
  >
  > Jon
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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Bob:

Yes the AN1x will display the ROM version.

You need to put it into Diagnostic mode:

I think below you actually want to press, I think, 1, 2, 3 to go into 
Diagnostics.  Not 7, 8, 9.

Give that a try first.  I don't have an AN in front of me right now.

You definately need the latest EPROM though.  It fixes a lot of things.

AN1X Factory Reset/Test Procedure:

Press  [7] [8] and [9] in the "Program Change" pad and power up.

          Follow the menus to reload the O/S and Voice selections




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Cheers Pete I'll be calling Yamaha UK tomorrow. ;-)

Peter Bye <pcbye@mmm.com> wrote:                                  The upgrade is available from Yamaha.  It is on a M27C800 EPROM.
 
 I think I paid about $40.00 USD each from Yamaha Parts for both of mine.
 
 Peter
 
 Rob Hill wrote:
 
 > I didn't know they did an update for the OS!
 >
 > Could someone please upload it into the file section of this DG? The 
 > Yamaha sites have nothing on them.
 >
 > Thanks
 > Rob.
 >
 > Jon <jondl_2000@... <mailto:jondl_2000%40yahoo.com>> wrote: --- 
 > In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>, Rob 
 > Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
 > > A word of warning tho if your patch uses the tempo delay it 
 > sometimes can a bit
 > tempremental and and trys to corrects the timing which resulting in 
 > little crackles as the
 > delay keeps reseting itself.
 > >
 >
 > This was supposedly fixed in OS V1.04 for the AN1x.
 >
 > Jon
 >
 >
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 >
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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Rob Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
>
> Cheers Pete I'll be calling Yamaha UK tomorrow. ;-)
> 
> Peter Bye <pcbye@...> wrote:                                  The upgrade is available from Yamaha.  
It is on a M27C800 EPROM.
>  
>  I think I paid about $40.00 USD each from Yamaha Parts for both of mine.
>  
>  Peter


I think my AN1x was still under warranty when the update was released, but $40 was the 
going rate some time ago as posted to AN1x-list.

Check the Photos section, and maybe the Filess ection - there might be write up and some 
pics for opening up the AN1x for th eeprom install. It's not a complicated procedure.

Jon

I just dug up an old E-Mail -- not that long ago -- September of 2005

Peter,

Yes, there are available. AN1X part number XS467I00 version 1.04 at 
$36.43 and for a DX7IIFD is XC314007D at $74.10 version 1.9

You can place a order with a Visa, MC or AMEX by calling our toll free
number 888 892-6242. You can also place a order by mail with
prepayment.
Yamaha Corporation
attn: parts dept
6600 Orangethorpe Avenue
Buena Park CA 90620




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Hello. 

I have a problem todetermine OS version of An1x. :o(  I am sorry. Peter, I didn’tunderstand you well. 

I Switch Off An1x and press7+8+9 buttons than Switch On An1x. „Fact set 1-9“ is appeared. What’snext? I have tried every combination but without success. I can’t findout OS number. Could you help me, please? 

 

Thank you very much.

 

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My mistake.  I was operating from memory.

To do a factory reset:

Power Off

Hold down [7] [8] [9] and power on.  This will bring up a menu of 
various reset types.


To go in Dianostics mode and find out the ROM Revision:

Power Off

Hold down [0] [-] [+] and power on.  This will bring up the ROM 
Revision and put you into diagnostic mode to test all of the 
functions, knobs, keys, etc, etc.  You can just power off at any time 
when in this mode without any effect.

Regards;

Peter

Ok just installed the new 1.04 OS chip (which took a day to get to me from Yamaha parts for £17) and the first thing I've noticed is that the sequencer will now respond to MIDI start stop without having to keep you finger pressed down on a key. The tempo delay works without a glitching.

Does anyone know of the full list of fixes for V1.04?

Thanks
Rob.



 		
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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Rob Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
>
> Ok just installed the new 1.04 OS chip (which took a day to get to me from Yamaha 
parts for £17) and the first thing I've noticed is that the sequencer will now respond to 
MIDI start stop without having to keep you finger pressed down on a key. The tempo delay 
works without a glitching.
> 
> Does anyone know of the full list of fixes for V1.04?
> 
> Thanks
> Rob.

It's been some time since I corresponded with Yamaha Tech Support regarding v1.04.

I inquired:

<< it's my understanding the v1.04 OS corrects an erroneous 'low voltage' warning which 
can occur prematurely and that it also corrects the audio response when modulating the 
depth, i.e., return, of delay effects. Is this correct? >>

They replied: 

"Version 1.04 does correct the symptoms you described."

So, AFAIK the MIDI Start/Stop issue you've brought forth as an issue is the third fix 
addressed by v1.04. To be honest, I'd never noticed it before you mentioned it :-)

Jon

You are the first to report this, Rob.
As far as I know, Yamahaha never released any info for the ROM upgrade.  
It was labeled as a bug fix with no further info.


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Rob Hill wrote:

> Ok just installed the new 1.04 OS chip (which took a day to get to me from Yamaha parts for £17) and the first thing I've noticed is that the sequencer will now respond to MIDI start stop without having to keep you finger pressed down on a key. The tempo delay works without a glitching.
>
> Does anyone know of the full list of fixes for V1.04?
>
> Thanks
> Rob.
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Hello Rob. Can I have aquestion for you? I have An1x with 1.02 OS and I have a problem with sync. WhenI set Tempo of arpeggiator to MIDI and record some part, recorded notes are noton exact position determined by quantize grid. The timing of arpeggio is shuffling.The timing is not accuracy straight with midi click. Some notes are delayingsome go before the quantize grid. My friend has a same problem on his An1x. Is thisissue resolved in OS 1.04? Could you check it, please? I am sorry, I hope thatyou understand me; my English is not good\u2026

 

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From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 20077:51 PM
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AN1x] Re: OS V1.04


 

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com,Rob Hill <m_moog8925@...> wrote:
>
> Ok just installed the new 1.04 OS chip (which took a day to get to me fromYamaha 
parts for £17) and the first thing I've noticed is that the sequencer will nowrespond to 
MIDI start stop without having to keep you finger pressed down on a key. Thetempo delay 
works without a glitching.
> 
> Does anyone know of the full list of fixes for V1.04?
> 
> Thanks
> Rob.

It's been some time since I corresponded with Yamaha Tech Support regardingv1.04.

I inquired:

<< it's my understanding the v1.04 OS corrects an erroneous 'low voltage'warning which 
can occur prematurely and that it also corrects the audio response whenmodulating the 
depth, i.e., return, of delay effects. Is this correct? >>

They replied: 

"Version 1.04 does correct the symptoms you described."

So, AFAIK the MIDI Start/Stop issue you've brought forth as an issue is thethird fix 
addressed by v1.04. To be honest, I'd never noticed it before you mentioned it:-)

Jon


 

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Hey Ondrash,

On Mon Feb 19 2007, Ondrash Daree <ondrash77@...> wrote:
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> Hello Rob. Can I have aquestion for you? I have An1x with 1.02 OS and I have a problem with sync. WhenI set Tempo of arpeggiator to MIDI and record some part, recorded notes are noton exact position determined by quantize grid. The timing of arpeggio is shuffling.The timing is not accuracy straight with midi click. Some notes are delayingsome go before the quantize grid. My friend has a same problem on his An1x. Is thisissue resolved in OS 1.04? Could you check it, please? I am sorry, I hope thatyou understand me; my English is not good\u2026
> 
>

Check your swing settings. No idea where it exactly is in the
mod-matrix, but there is a swing setting and pretty much describes your
quantize problem.

> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Ondrash 
> 

And please, keep the noise down, remove unnecessary parts from the
email, I've been removing a copy'n'paste of 3 previous messages from
this message before replying. 

I feel offended by the lack of some people in recent messages, 
to clean up the emails. Ofcourse this is like trying to be heard by
screaming into a hurricane, but still, it takes just 1 extra second of
extra consideration to hit the "shift+pagedown, delete" combination to
clear up crap at the bottom of the emails.

Cheers,

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