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Need help with sequences.

Need help with sequences.

2007-02-05 by lord lucan

Hi All.

Bit of a basic question really, I just don't have a clue about the sequence part of the synth. I'm 
actually not sure what question to ask even, I just don't get how they fit into the overall 
heirachy of the synth. I've read the manual numerous times but my eyes always glaze over 
after  a couple of pages . If anyone can enlighten me, it would be great, I really don't have a 
clue.....

Nick

Re: [AN1x] Need help with sequences.

2007-02-05 by Steve Cooke

Welcome to the wonderful world of Yamaha, Nick!

Have you actually tried to *do* something with the sequencer yet or
have you just been reading the manual in order to understand the thing
conceptually?

Steve


On 05/02/07, lord lucan <nickandrews2001@...> wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> Bit of a basic question really, I just don't have a clue about the sequence part of the synth. I'm
> actually not sure what question to ask even, I just don't get how they fit into the overall
> heirachy of the synth. I've read the manual numerous times but my eyes always glaze over
> after  a couple of pages . If anyone can enlighten me, it would be great, I really don't have a
> clue.....
>
> Nick
>
>
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Re: [AN1x] Need help with sequences.

2007-02-05 by Rob Hill

You need to flick the synth into the sequencer edit line on the programming matrix ( the one knob pointing to loadsa stuff) then select how you want the sequencer to play, how you want to play the sequences ect with the buttons underneath.
You'll find the main 8 knobs will control each steps note, gate, velocity and almost any other parameter on the forth row. 


You really should check out the manual tho as it gets quite in depth but you'll find its one of the best realtime performance sequencers ever just remember to hold a key down before you press play when syncing to an external sequencer.

Have fun! 

Rob. :-)



lord lucan <nickandrews2001@...> wrote:                                  Hi All.
 
 Bit of a basic question really, I just don't have a clue about the sequence part of the synth. I'm 
 actually not sure what question to ask even, I just don't get how they fit into the overall 
 heirachy of the synth. I've read the manual numerous times but my eyes always glaze over 
 after  a couple of pages . If anyone can enlighten me, it would be great, I really don't have a 
 clue.....
 
 Nick
 
 
     
                       

 		
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Re: Need help with sequences.

2007-02-05 by Brian Rost

The AN sequencer is just a software model of the sort of step
sequencers found on old modular analogs. The typical use of course is
for playing repetitive melodic patterns as opposed to entire songs.
When song-based sequencers arrived in the early days of MIDI they
displaced step sequencers for over a decade until step sequencing
became popular again in electronic dance music.

The sequences themselves are stored with each patch as opposed to
being stored on their own (except for "user patterns" which is a more
advanced topic....ha ha).

The most basic things to know are:

1. if you use the arpeggiator, you cannot use the sequencer and vice versa

2. the sequencer can control not only pitch of notes, but also
velocity, duration (gate) and any single continuous controller you choose

3. while the sequencer can be tempo synched to a MIDI clock, it does
not respond to the MIDI stop and start commands, you start it by
playing a note on the keyboard and stop it by releasing the note
(unless HOLD is on in which case it plays forever!)

When programming the sequencer it's simplest to set HOLD to ON so it
will loop endlessly as you tweak each step. You can choose the
direction the sequence runs and how many steps (it need not always be
16). Them just tweak away until you get something you like and save
the patch. Users of the PLG150-AN board can do the same thing from
inside the software editor.

Once programmed the sequencer can be operated in a few different modes:

1. the sequence only plays in the original key no matter what note you
play on the keyboard

2. the sequence is transposed relative to the original programmed key
depending on the note you play on the keyboard

3. set up a split where the sequence is triggered/transposed by
playing notes BELOW the split while you can still play notes manually
above the split

4. set up a split where playing notes BELOW the split you chooses
different user patterns and playing notes ABOVE the split transposes
the patterns (this one is a more advanced application!!!)

Which mode you use depends on your application of course.

Hope this helps!!!!

Re: [AN1x] Need help with sequences.

2007-02-06 by lord lucan

Hey Steve.

I have programmed a few and twiddled about a bit but that's about it. I think there are 100 
slots into which you can store your own. Is this a central reservoir of sequences that can 
be called up by any sound or does each sound have 100 sequences?  What's the deal with 
user seqs vs voice seqs? User pattern bank vs voice pattern bank?  I have read the manual 
and normally I'm pretty good at this sort of thing but I seem to have a bit of a blindspot, 
don't let my questions fool you into thinking I know ANYTHING about it......
Whatever you have time to tell me would be great. How do you use them?


Regards, Nick.



--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Cooke" <smcooke@...> wrote:
>
> Welcome to the wonderful world of Yamaha, Nick!
> 
> Have you actually tried to *do* something with the sequencer yet or
> have you just been reading the manual in order to understand the thing
> conceptually?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 05/02/07, lord lucan <nickandrews2001@...> wrote:
> > Hi All.
> >
> > Bit of a basic question really, I just don't have a clue about the sequence part of the 
synth. I'm
> > actually not sure what question to ask even, I just don't get how they fit into the 
overall
> > heirachy of the synth. I've read the manual numerous times but my eyes always glaze 
over
> > after  a couple of pages . If anyone can enlighten me, it would be great, I really don't 
have a
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> > clue.....
> >
> > Nick
> >
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> 
> -- 
> Steve Cooke
> smcooke@...
>

Re: [AN1x] Need help with sequences.

2007-02-06 by Rob Hill

Avoice bank that will save that one sequence with that particular patch. The sequencer pattern bank uses half the keyboard to select 128 sequences (either instantly or after the previous sequence has finished) and the other half to either play the sound normally or transpose the sequence thats playing. In short the voice pattern is only for the patch that its saved with and the sequencer pattern bank will play the same 128 sequences across the keyboard with any patch when that mode is selected.

I know the AN1X manual isn't the greatest, it took me my second AN1X to realise its potential especially with the 16 route control matrix.

Try this in depth review in SOS which spreads a little more light on the power of the dark side! ;-)

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/aug97/yamahaan1x.html







lord lucan <nickandrews2001@...> wrote:                                  Hey Steve.
 
 I have programmed a few and twiddled about a bit but that's about it. I think there are 100 
 slots into which you can store your own. Is this a central reservoir of sequences that can 
 be called up by any sound or does each sound have 100 sequences?  What's the deal with 
 user seqs vs voice seqs? User pattern bank vs voice pattern bank?  I have read the manual 
 and normally I'm pretty good at this sort of thing but I seem to have a bit of a blindspot, 
 don't let my questions fool you into thinking I know ANYTHING about it......
 Whatever you have time to tell me would be great. How do you use them?
 
 Regards, Nick.
 
 --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Cooke" <smcooke@...> wrote:
 >
 > Welcome to the wonderful world of Yamaha, Nick!
 > 
 > Have you actually tried to *do* something with the sequencer yet or
 > have you just been reading the manual in order to understand the thing
 > conceptually?
 > 
 > Steve
 > 
 > 
 > On 05/02/07, lord lucan <nickandrews2001@...> wrote:
 > > Hi All.
 > >
 > > Bit of a basic question really, I just don't have a clue about the sequence part of the 
 synth. I'm
 > > actually not sure what question to ask even, I just don't get how they fit into the 
 overall
 > > heirachy of the synth. I've read the manual numerous times but my eyes always glaze 
 over
 > > after  a couple of pages . If anyone can enlighten me, it would be great, I really don't 
 have a
 > > clue.....
 > >
 > > Nick
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Community email addresses:
 > >   Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
 > >   Subscribe:    AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
 > >   Unsubscribe:  AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
 > >   List owner:   AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com
 > >
 > > Shortcut URL to this page:
 > >    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list
 > >
 > > The AN1x Control Synthesizer FAQ::
 > >   http://www.geocities.com/jondl_2000/an1x_faq/an1x_faq_toc.htm
 > >
 > > Yahoo! Groups Links
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 > Steve Cooke
 > smcooke@...
 >
 
 
     
                       

 		
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Re: [AN1x] Need help with sequences.

2007-02-06 by Brian Rost

> What's the deal with 
> user seqs vs voice seqs? User pattern bank vs voice pattern bank?

See page 39 of the manual for a discussion of the user patterns and
page 90 to see a graphic of the pattern banks. Each patch has it's own
sequencer pattern (voice pattern) but there is also a pool of 128 user
patterns that can be accessed in the "sel&norm" or "sel&shift" modes.

From page 39:

"During Pattern Select Play, you can trigger more than
one Step Sequencer pattern from the keyboard. Each
pattern is assigned to a different key. For Pattern Select
Play, the Keyboard Mode parameter (VOICE
ARPEGGIO/SEQ menu) must be set to either
"sel&norm" or "sel&shift"."

This allows selecting different melodic patterns in real time just
like you can on a Roland-style groovebox. It's a little complex to
actually use this feature however!!! 

1. Set a split point
2. Playing key C1 will start the sequencer playing the pattern
programmed into the patch (voice pattern). 
3. Playing key C#1 will select whatever user pattern was programmed
into the patch.
4. Playing D1 will play the NEXT user pattern above the one programmed
into the patch.
5. Playing keys above D1 will sleect user patterns in ascending
numerical order until you either reach the split point or you hit the
last user pattern.
6. While each patch's voice pattern is unique all patches share the
user patterns.

Example:

--> Program patches A and B in "sel&norm" mode with split at C2.
--> Program patch A to use user pattern #1.
--> Program patch B to use user pattern #4.

If you select patch A you can trigger the following patterns by
playing these keys:

C1 -> patch A voice pattern
C#1 -> user pattern 1
D1 -> user pattern 2
D#1 -> user pattern 3
E1 -> user pattern 4
F1 -> user pattern 5
F#1 -> user pattern 6
G1 -> user pattern 7
G#1 -> user pattern 8
A1 -> user pattern 9
A#1 -> user pattern 10
B1 -> user pattern 11


If you select patch B you will trigger the following patterns by
playing these keys:

C1 -> patch B voice pattern
C#1 -> user pattern 4
D1 -> user pattern 5
D#1 -> user pattern 6
E1 -> user pattern 7
F1 -> user pattern 8
F#1 -> user pattern 9
G1 -> user pattern 10
G#1 -> user pattern 11
A1 -> user pattern 12
A#1 -> user pattern 13
B1 -> user pattern 14

Patch A and B both share user patterns 4-11.

As you can see using the user patterns requires carefully organizing
them in the user bank since they can only be accessed in numerical order. 

Does this make any more sense?

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