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Really POed at EX5Tech (was Re: [AN1x] Online patch database ideas..

2002-09-09 by jondl_2000

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "idealordid" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "idealordid" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
> > > > Anyways, sounds like an interesting project and I'd be 
happy 
> > to 
> > > house 
> > > > the patch library and contribute a little programming time.  
> > > FWIW, I 
> > > > recently translated the entire AN1X patch library (99 
banks) to 
> > > EX5 
> > > > format thanks to a utility that a fellow EX5 owner wrote, 
> > > exFactory 
> > > > 3.0.  So the user base for this library has rapidly 
expanded.  
> > > Plus 
> > > > I'd like to support my other synths, FS1R and SY77 and 
DX7, 
> > > etc...
> > > > 
> > > > Jeff Harrington
> > > > http://jeffharrington.org
> > > 
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > > 
> > > How considerate of the EX5 community to take our work 
> > without 
> > > asking. How and when did they plan to ask permission or 
> > > express their thanks for our efforts? I can't say I'm happy 
that 
> > > nobody thought to at least inquire if anybody objected to 
their 
> > > data being repackaged and distrubuted in a format other 
than 
> > > what it was intended.
> > > 
> > > Where are these EX5 converted Voices hosted? I'd like to 
> > speak 
> > > with whomever is hosting my work. Please cease 
distributing 
> > > any converted archives which contain any voices from my 
AN1x 
> > > Voice banks. My voice banks can be easily identified by the 
> > > leading characters JDLX.
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > 
> > > Jon
> > 
> > I've found the entire AN1x User Voice archive from thist list 
has 
> > been repackaged and redistrubuted at EX5Tech. 
> > http://www.ex5tech.com/
> > 
> > I've written EX5Tech expressing my displeasure and request 
> > they remove my JDLX Voice banks from their web site. I 
made it 
> > clear that I was speaking only for myself and not any other 
AN1x 
> > user.
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Jon
> 
> Hi, this is Jeff Harrington the guy who did most of the 
translation.  
> As a member of the AN1X list, I acted in good faith in my 
> legitimately given right (your permission to AN1X list members) 
to 
> use the AN1X patch library.  
> 
> I regret that you're pissed off by my actions.  I had no idea this 
> would happen - as I'm sure nobody at EX5Tech did and ask for 
your 
> permission and apologize after the fact.  
> 
> We appreciate your hard work and have enjoyed immenselely 
the 
> entirety of the patch library.  From one Yamaha user to another 
I can 
> only say, "Bravo!".
> 
> Jeff Harrington

Hi Jeff,

Now that I've had an opportunity to throw my little tantrum and 
subsequently chill out maybe we can put this into perspective.

First of all, as a subscribing member of AN1x-list you certainly 
are  entitled to make use of the contributed AN1x User Voices.

Second, I should have taken a moment longer to realize 
translating the user Voices from .an1 format to a format suitable 
for the EX* series is analogous to the proprietary sample format 
translation efforts of after market vendors. To pretend otherwise 
would be hypocritical - particularly since I'm actively involved as a 
beta tester in such developments.

Third, it would have been considerate to have been consulted by 
EX5Tech before hand but what's done is done - I'm glad there 
are apparently so many users who find our efforts worthwhile.

So that my ranting and raving is better understood, I've actively 
encouraged and participated in Voice contributions in this 
community with two ambitions: 1) That somebody smarter than 
me will step up and let me know how I might improve my own 
programming and 2) that my efforts may help somebody new to 
synthesis say "I didn't know you could that!" I wrongly interpreted 
the EX5Tech effort as siphoning off our work without some 
contribution in return. Having reviewed your own web site and 
EX5Tech I see that you do indeed give back to the community.

I'm willing to write this off as a misunderstanding and hope we 
all can take a lesson away from this.

Apologies.

Jon

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