Bjorn, Forgot to mention - E-mu has published their Reference Manuals as PDFs and made them available free of charge from their web site: http://www.emu.com/products/archives/archives.html You can look up the manual for the ESI model your friend has offered up and the other E* series models discussed in this thread. IMO, Ray makes some good points and I concur with his reasoning in regards to price vs. performance. Why else would E-mu market a half dozen variations of the same thing? Oh, and he's also correct regarding real time control of filter cutoff values on E-mu samplers and the Resonance settings. Filter Cutoof can be adjusted/modulated in real time. Resonance is set at note-on. However, the depth amount can be adjusted via velocity, i.e., at note-on the Rez value can be set depending on key velocity. Good luck, Jon --- In AN1x-list@y..., RayMaxer <digil@d...> wrote: > Ops , I am sorry for my formatting. > Ray. > > RayMaxer wrote: > > > Bjorn - that's not truth about EMU's (or sampler's) disability to control the > > filter in real-time. > > AFAIK there a 'small' problem on EMU's (their ROMplers [Proteus 2K] too) that > > RESONANCE can't be changed > > while the note is on , but filter cutoff frequency can , of course. > > Also - as the sampler won't be your only instrument I'd never consider buying > > Platinum version. > > I was choosing and making a decision about the sampler during last 3 months I > > think <G> > > and I came down to E-MU Ultra 6400 and I am going to get it here (in Moscow - > > not the cheapest > > place to get music eq. too) for about 1650-1700 $ (new) in about a week and know > > what ? I think I get practically > > the same stuff as Platinum for my needs. > > Do you need more than 8 outs ? Do you need wordclock input ? Do you need 32 Midi > > INs ? > > Do you need more than 64 poly in the sampler ? and so on and so on .. > > Practically everything that is added in Platinum is not very useful for me. > > The only model I was / am taking into accound now is AKAI S3000XL , I think , > > (though I find its limits really limiting) > > because of too much people saying to me that the 'coloring' of the sound on them > > is much smaller than on the new > > S5000/S6000 and Ultra E-MU's (the latest ones have a bit 'cheesy' sound as many > > pro users say). I am not taking > > 5000/6000's into account because of many problems people are telling about , > > because of the UI which I think is not > > great for such a display and so on (and again , the sound). > > Here were my ideas. > > Good luck. > > Ray. > > > > Bjørn Standal wrote: > > > > > Hi again > > > > > > To round up this thread, I would like to thank all you guys for answering > > > and enlightening me on this subject. All responses where informative and I > > > have sort of decided to: > > > > > > 1. Get Cakewalk with audio-recording (think 9.0). Make complete songs on my > > > 303/Trinity/DJX and then assign selected tracks (e.g. the bassline-track > > > which originated from the 303) to the AN1X , one at the time, to record them > > > into Cakewalk. The last track designated for the AN1X can be used as regular > > > midi track for real-time tweaking. > > > > > > 2. Get a sampler. I haven't decided for soft or hard, but hard is more > > > likely. Somebody I know got the Emu E4 Platinum which is one monster of a > > > sampler, 128MB, 20GB, lots of effects, 20 CD's with samples, SCSI, and one > > > quadrillion outputs. One problem is it's price tag. He got it for about > > > $6250 new. (Prices on gear here in Norway are really terrifying). Another > > > thing about this sampler is (something I heard somewhere) that you can't do > > > real-time filtering. You have to "re-trig" the sample to make the new > > > filter-setting active. Don't know if it's true, but if it is, I would > > > consider that a tremendous limit. > > > Also considering Akai Sxxx, Yamaha A5000 and other Emu's (6400, Ultra > > > 6400)... But what I am looking for in a sampler is really that I can use it > > > as a sound module like any other synth, and fully control effects and > > > filters from within Cakewalk. Don't care about onboard sound- editing tools > > > as I do that kind of thing in Cool Edit or Recycle. > > > > > > Thanks again. Nice having you competent people around :-) > > > > > > And hey, don't talk down to the DJX.;-) > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > > Post message: AN1x-list@y... > > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@y... > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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Re: Timbrality issue once more
2001-04-12 by jondl_2000@yahoo.com
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