this is fascinating! could someone actually give this a try and post the results? there is currently a "mellotron" patch in one of the patch banks, but not a very convincing one. and it would be interesting to follow bruce's instructions and then hear the results. cheers, chris At 10:41 PM 3/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >Jim, > >>I thought the old synth the Beatles used on the intro to "Strawberry >>fields" is interesting, how would you go about getting that sound? (was it >>a mellotron, or even older synth?..I think I've seen pictures of it) >> >>I would love to hear the thought process you would go through to get in >>the ballpark and how you would plan to get that sound. > >Boy, you could have found an easier first attempt! :^) This is a >deceptive sound, appearing easy to duplicate, but actually possessing a lot >of subtleties. > >The sound on the intro to "Strawberry Fields" is a Mellotron Mark II, using >the flute recording that was part of the standard tape set. What makes >this simulation difficult is the fact that the Mellotron is a sort of >sampling synthesizer, so you are trying to simulate a synth with another >synth. Also, the Mellotron had its own dominant timbre which permeated >every sound, from violins to choirs to flutes. And finally, the Mellotron >was not a chromatically-tuned instrument; the recordings were >just-intonated, mostly in the key of A major. In any other key, they tend >to sound a little off key on one or more of the notes. The following is >the way I would approach the sound on ANY synth, AN1x or otherwise -- > >I would start off by trying to simulate a flute sound, which is mostly a >sine wave, except for the initial attack, which has a lot of high harmonic >content, both tonal and atonal in nature. Start with a 50% duty pulse with >the Edge at about 115, and set the FEG to a fast attack, fast decay, and a >relatively low sustain level -- low enough to filter out most of the >harmonics, but not so low as to mute the sound. Set the AEG to a similar >shape, but set the sustain very high, maybe 118 or so. After some tweaking >by ear, you should have a flute timbre that sounds good for mellow solos -- >think soft jazz, not Jethro Tull. You may find that adding a little noise >to the mix improves the illusion, but use it sparingly. One VCO may be >enough to create the sound; if you want to use the second one, set it to >the same waveform, make it an octave above the first, about 25% of the >original volume, with only a very slight fine pitch detune. > >Now, you need to "Mellotron-ize" the sound. First, as you already noted, >the attack on the Mellotron was never very quick, owing to the nature of >the tape system used in the instrument. Back the attack of both the FEG >and AEG until you have a more calliope-like sound. If you want a good >example -- Strawberry Fields is not the best one I can think of -- use the >Dance of the Puppets section of King Crimson's "The Court of the Crimson >King," which is actually the same sound on the same instrument. After >that, you need to EQ the result to give it that hollow sound that the >Mellotron was famous for -- add a little boost at 125Hz and 3.8kHz, and >drop the 1kHz a little. The effect you're looking for is that of an old >movie soundtrack. Then add a little slow flange to the mix, and a little >PMOD using the same LFO speed, to simulate the wow and flutter that the >tape drive caused. Use the pitch modulation sparingly, as the detuning was >not all that noticeable. > >Finally, a little (mis-)tuning simulation is probably in order. Use one of >the matrix controls to add a little fine pitch decrease based on key >tracking, and if the end result causes the whole patch to go flat, >compensate with the fine pitch controls on the VCOs. > > >Regards, > >-BW > >-- >Bruce Wahler >Design Consultant >Ashby Solutions" >www.ashbysolutions.com >CloneWheel Support Group moderator >978.386.7389 voice >978.776.0096 fax >bruce@... > > > >Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Christopher Keep Assistant Professor Department of English University College University of Western Ontario London, Ontario Canada N6A 3K7 Tel.: (519) 661-2111, ext. 85829 Fax: (519) 661-3776 e-mail: ckeep@...
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Re: [AN1x-list] Enlightening exercise: Strawberry fields synth sound?
2001-03-12 by Christopher Keep
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