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Have you discounted GIGASAMPLER ?
depends on your sound card I spose.

----- Original Message -----
From: RayMaxer <digil@...>
To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Commercial Trance


> Paul ,
> I fully agree with you (though why 'forget the technology' ? ) - and you
know
> what ? I am not having a sampler even yet here ..
> I use audio tracks in sequencer plus used sampling functions in the audio
card
> but now I have changed to Gina 24 and I definitly gonna get myself a Ultra
(Emu)
> or something else .
> But currently I've been using 4 synths but no samplers ... (AN-1x, ViRUS
b,
> WaveStation SR and Proteus 2000)
> Speaking about samplers - I am going to get a top-end sampler and am
thinking
> about EMU Ultra series and AKAI 5000 ... or maybe Yamaha A4000-A5000 (but
the
> latest has UGLY SCSI as I know so I am somehow not sure if its in the same
> 'line') ..
> Could anyone give some advice on this topic ?
> Thanks.
> <And again - not for sampling others loops , melodies and so on - I am
kinda
> thinking of using it half like a synth , for drum sounds plus some real
> instruments and editing the hell out of ViRUS and otther lines with dif.
FX>
> Ray.
>
> Paul Murphy wrote:
>
> > Forget the technology, - I just cant see how recording someone elses
> > arpeggio and trying to manipulate that can be compared to playing your
own
> > and applying your own filters !
> >
> > Am I the only one here who sees that ?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: RayMaxer <digil@...>
> > To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 10:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Commercial Trance
> >
> > > In fact - I am not sure on this of course , but I suppose there should
be
> > a
> > > difference in how the filters work ..
> > > In AN1x or ViRUS or ... we have a digital emulation of an analog VCF -
the
> > > algorithm in AN1x for the filter is to emulate VCF ...
> > > And in the samplers we usually have just the usual digital LPF or HPF
> > filters
> > > which were not specifically created to emulate the
> > > analog filters.
> > > And I in fact disagree that Samplers COVER analog emulation synths ..
> > > Saying this - any romplers which have sine , saw and some other waves
> > cover analog
> > > em. synths - and that's of course a funny statement.
> > > Ray.
> > >
> > > Peter Korsten wrote:
> > >
> > > > Paul Murphy shared with us:
> > > > > This thread seems to have gone off the track.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, well, it's the bane of this list, I 'spose...
> > > >
> > > > > Let me go back to a statement made by Peter :
> > > > >
> > > > > "  Are you nuts??? Commercial trance producers do NOT use
sampling-cds
> > for
> > > > > creating arpeggios!!!!!
> > > > >     It is impossible to create  authentic dynamic filter
modulation
> > with
> > > > > it!!! "
> > > >
> > > > Wasn't me. :) (But that's been covered already.)
> > > >
> > > > > I was actually agreeing with his statement, saying that if you
desire
> > these
> > > > > sort of trance arpeggios, you wouldn't sample CD's because you
would
> > be
> > > > > restricted to the notes and dynamic filter effects that were
applied
> > to the
> > > > > original sample.
> > > > >
> > > > > Buying an actual synth would be a better option for this
application
> > because
> > > > > you could construct the arpeggios you want with the effects you
want.
> > > >
> > > > The way I see it, it would be a better option to use a different
> > > > sample, then.
> > > >
> > > > There really isn't much difference between synths like the AN1x
> > > > and the A-series samplers. The oscillators differ - and that's it.
> > > > Both rely on the substractive synthesis method, which basically
> > > > means they both use filters to make the sound interesting.
> > > >
> > > > - Peter
> > > >
> > > >
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