Paul , I fully agree with you (though why 'forget the technology' ? ) - and you know what ? I am not having a sampler even yet here .. I use audio tracks in sequencer plus used sampling functions in the audio card but now I have changed to Gina 24 and I definitly gonna get myself a Ultra (Emu) or something else . But currently I've been using 4 synths but no samplers ... (AN-1x, ViRUS b, WaveStation SR and Proteus 2000) Speaking about samplers - I am going to get a top-end sampler and am thinking about EMU Ultra series and AKAI 5000 ... or maybe Yamaha A4000-A5000 (but the latest has UGLY SCSI as I know so I am somehow not sure if its in the same 'line') .. Could anyone give some advice on this topic ? Thanks. <And again - not for sampling others loops , melodies and so on - I am kinda thinking of using it half like a synth , for drum sounds plus some real instruments and editing the hell out of ViRUS and otther lines with dif. FX> Ray. Paul Murphy wrote: > Forget the technology, - I just cant see how recording someone elses > arpeggio and trying to manipulate that can be compared to playing your own > and applying your own filters ! > > Am I the only one here who sees that ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RayMaxer <digil@...> > To: <AN1x-list@egroups.com> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Commercial Trance > > > In fact - I am not sure on this of course , but I suppose there should be > a > > difference in how the filters work .. > > In AN1x or ViRUS or ... we have a digital emulation of an analog VCF - the > > algorithm in AN1x for the filter is to emulate VCF ... > > And in the samplers we usually have just the usual digital LPF or HPF > filters > > which were not specifically created to emulate the > > analog filters. > > And I in fact disagree that Samplers COVER analog emulation synths .. > > Saying this - any romplers which have sine , saw and some other waves > cover analog > > em. synths - and that's of course a funny statement. > > Ray. > > > > Peter Korsten wrote: > > > > > Paul Murphy shared with us: > > > > This thread seems to have gone off the track. > > > > > > Yes, well, it's the bane of this list, I 'spose... > > > > > > > Let me go back to a statement made by Peter : > > > > > > > > " Are you nuts??? Commercial trance producers do NOT use sampling-cds > for > > > > creating arpeggios!!!!! > > > > It is impossible to create authentic dynamic filter modulation > with > > > > it!!! " > > > > > > Wasn't me. :) (But that's been covered already.) > > > > > > > I was actually agreeing with his statement, saying that if you desire > these > > > > sort of trance arpeggios, you wouldn't sample CD's because you would > be > > > > restricted to the notes and dynamic filter effects that were applied > to the > > > > original sample. > > > > > > > > Buying an actual synth would be a better option for this application > because > > > > you could construct the arpeggios you want with the effects you want. > > > > > > The way I see it, it would be a better option to use a different > > > sample, then. > > > > > > There really isn't much difference between synths like the AN1x > > > and the A-series samplers. The oscillators differ - and that's it. > > > Both rely on the substractive synthesis method, which basically > > > means they both use filters to make the sound interesting. > > > > > > - Peter > > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > > Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com > > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com > > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com > > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com > > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@onelist.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@onelist.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/AN1x-list
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Re: [AN1x-list] Commercial Trance
2000-11-18 by RayMaxer
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