Hi Nate Some people think An1x being an Prophet clone. Thats not true. Its an CS80 clone. I am shure. You can see it regarding the waveform both machines producing. They are same way out of phase. Thats no error, because we dont hear that. Also the ring modualtion, Ribbon are typically CS80. There is one An1x preset sound that is close to CS80 brass. But it is using not enough feedback. Feedback ist changing everything. Emphasing the low frequencies of the Waveforms but also totally the behavior of the filter. Making it more resonant like a voice, a formantfilter.And thats typicall for CS80. Its alway sounding a little bit like a voice. Its no problem to test this. Here you ll get the Arturia CS 80 Demo for free : http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/cs-80v/intro.html I didnt spend too much time with the CS80 Sound. Perhaps you already found out a trick i used for the mellotron sounds too. Using the digital delay as a combfilter (in German Kammfilter) Do you know whats a combfilter ? Its a filter with a periodical Spectrum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comb_filter Its good if you are able to calculate this, but you can just recognice : If I am using a digital delay with much feedback i will get a Comb Filter. And such a comb filter sounds like a formant filter, like a voice. Just test it. Use the CS80 Sound and Digital Delay=127 with Feedback 80. Time 0.1-0.5 ms. Now the sound gets even more vocal and vintage. More vintage because such a comb filter is producing heavy phase errors like filters in vintage instruments. Theres another interesting fact. What is physical modelling ? Its just using a lot of digital delays to simulate wave propagation. A Comb Filter line. Nothing special. Other tricks to produce vintage fealing : (I didnt use for CS80 sound) Keypress Detune : In Polyphonic Analog Synths the Oszillator are rotating. If you press 6 times a note its always another oszillator you will hear. It makes sense because then there is no OSC that is used more often than the others an will get older because of this reason. But no analog OSC is perfect in tune and therefore everytime you ll press a key tuning changes. Use the AN1X Matrix : Keyrandom : Scene Detune : around 30 Streched Detune : A piano is an good example for streched detuning. Also Runing of a mellotron is streched. Use the AN1X Matrix : Keytrack : Fine Tune OSC 1 / 2 Inner Detune : Using streched detuning only for one OSC, OSC1 and OSC2 will be Keytrack detuned. But you can achive the same using a littele bit of FM Modulation. Random Detune over Time : I used this for the mellotrons via Free EG. Speed of the Tape is not stable. Noise : Thats very important. Always add a little bit of noise to avoid a digital Charakter. An1x provides white noise. A bandpass noise would be better. In some cases you ll have to create this via FM Modulation. I did this for the Mellotron Flute. Yamaha GX1 Thats the famous Yamaha Elecone Organ including an CS80 Yamaha GS1 Thats an mixture of DX7, Clavianova including analog filter functions ? I germany its very famous becauase of this song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llvc4TMWphI&feature=related I emulated the GS1 sound already on my Triton LE. Demo GS1 Triton Le http://home.arcor.de/richardon/2008/tanz.mp3 Would be no problem for An1x But i never use the sound on stage. I dont like it :-) Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nate King" <nate@...> To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:25 AM Subject: [AN1x] Electone patches Hihi Richie's patches( mellotron, epianos , and cs-80) have me wondering if there's any good electone style patches out there. Like ex-1, gx-1, d-80 etc. I've been really looking for that brassy string sound of late. For a point of reference, YouTube metronomy "the looks". I haven't tinkered with the cs-80 patches much lately, so it's possible I should just tweak those. And if not, I'll work on them and share. I'm just looking for the easy way out late on a monday night. Thanks and happy synth-ing! nate On Feb 20, 2012 8:56 PM, "Bastiaan Van de werk" <vandewerk@...> wrote: > ** > > > Thanks for the tip. It would be nice though to > be able to manage patches a bit more elegantly... I don't care much for > editing on a computer (I'm quite comfortable on the An1x myself) but it > would be nice to be able > to have a librarian of sorts allowing me to send / receive patches to / > from specific locations so I can assemble banks of my favorite sounds. > > I have OSX Lion but a Win7 Partition on my iMac as well - it would suck to > have to use an old machine just to upload banks of patches though.... > > OSX seems out of the question though... :( > > Any tips? > > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Chris Gregory <chris@...> wrote: > > > > C6 does a good job: http://www.elektron.se/support-and-downloads > > > > Yes, they really are fantastic sounds. They sound more musical than > > any mellotron samples I've ever come across. > > > > Chris > > > > On 19 February 2012 02:47, bas <bastiaan@...> wrote: > > > I've just listened to these demos after not having used my An1x for 2 > years or so.... > > > > > > * JAWDROPPER * > > > > > > I thought that I knew my An1x quite well including the range of sounds > one can coax from it but this is beyond anything I thought possible..... > > > > > > Now I need to find a way to import these patches using OSC 10.7 > > > > > > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "denis_mathys2001" > <denis_mathys2001@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Wonderful job! The sounds are so soulful and inspiring. Many thanks > for sharing them. > > >> > > >> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "richardon" <richardon@> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Hi > > >> > > > >> > Actually i completed my An1X Mellotron project and posted the > results to the AN1X yahoo folder. > > >> > The sounds are tested and adjusted to the templates with an > Dynacord 12/2 Keymonitor. > > >> > The file contains : > > >> > > > >> > Violins+Brass (Watcher of the skies) > > >> > Violins > > >> > Flute > > >> > Flute+Strings > > >> > Male choir > > >> > Female Choir > > >> > Cello > > >> > Cello+Violins > > >> > Mandoline > > >> > Strings+Choir > > >> > > > >> > I implemented unfiltered Mellotrons. Unsing the Modulation wheel > you will get filtered versions > > >> > The Modulation wheel will also increase reverb, blend two sounds > and do other stuff. > > >> > The Pitch bender simulates the Mellotron Tape speed. > > >> > The Ribbon X increaeses Reverb. > > >> > Mellotron is dynamically concerning Attack times. Thats easy to do > with AN1X. > > >> > Some decent note off effects are programmed too. > > >> > > > >> > Some Demos : > > >> > > > >> > Violins+Brass (Watcher of the skies) In der Endversion doch noch > etwas "entschaerft". > > >> > http://home.arcor.de/richardon/2012/watcher.mp3 > > >> > > > >> > Cello : > > >> > http://home.arcor.de/richardon/2011/cello.mp3 > > >> > > > >> > Female+Strings, Male, Female (plus boys), Mandoline : > > >> > http://home.arcor.de/richardon/2012/mello2012.mp3 > > >> > > > >> > Strawberry Floete : > > >> > http://home.arcor.de/richardon/2011/melflute.mp3 > > >> > > > >> > Have fun with your new Mellotron An1X . > > >> > > > >> > Ciao > > >> > richy > > >> > > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > > \ufffd Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > > > \ufffd Subscribe: \ufffd \ufffd AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > \ufffd Unsubscribe: \ufffd AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > \ufffd List owner: \ufffd AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > \ufffd http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Re: [AN1x] Electone patches
2012-02-23 by richardon