Jeff, thanks again for your time, i´m learning a lot in this days.
si was thinking in the behringer bcr for midi control, what do you thing of this one?
--- El jue 29-abr-10, Jeff <jf.serviere@...> escribió:
De: Jeff <jf.serviere@...>
Asunto: Re: [AN1x] bring all the power to real life
Para: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Fecha: jueves, 29 de abril de 2010, 17:43
Nicolás Marquestó a écrit :
>
> Hello Jeff !!
> First of all, thank you for the answere, i´m very happy with this new,
> there is a whole world inside this little box. I dont know if it sound
> good or bad because is my first synth, but i´m learning a lot of the
> substractive world with it and the posibility of controlling other
> things/parameters such as the LF2, PWM, Ring Modulator, etc. could
> open a whole new conception of "know How".
> Do you know where can i find a tutorial or something like that in
> order to learn how to program a midi controller and the synth?, i´m a
> newby on this world and i feel lost with all the midi stuff. i have
> the complete manual with the "data sheet" with the midi implementation
> but i dont understand a single word.
> I´m thinking on buying a M-audio Oxygen 25, do you know if this
> controller cound bring the hidden stuff to my hands or maybe i look
> for another one?
> Thanks again for you time and patience!
> Cheers from Argentina!!!!
>
Hello Nicolas !
i don't know very much the AN200, for me it's half an AN1x without
keyboard plus 4 extra rythm tracks and some percussion sounds. IMHO the
AN1x sounds very well compared to other "virtual analog synths" (i have
one, plus a Red Sound Elevata and i've tried others similar instruments
before, Roland JP 8000, Virus...). The AN1x is a little less "user
friendly" (multi function knobs and switches) than its competitors but
nothing awful...such as the AN200.
MIDI is a communication protocol between electronic instruments,
something like a "musical RS 232" on the hardware part, because it is a
serial port, and a "common language" between all these different
instruments and software(s). Computer analogy : basic, C++, java etc...
MIDI knows 16 "channels" which are not physical but logical, like an
internet or computer memory address. For exemple if you send notes on
the channel 13 only the instrument(s) listening at this address play,
others stay quiet even if they are "hooked on the same cable"
Some MIDI messages are understood by any instrument, mostly the note,
velocity (= strength) and to some extent after touch (but an electronic
piano has no aftertouch capability, nor some old synths).
Others are "system exclusive" messages, that means "dedicated to one
instrument and ignored by others". MIDI system exclusive messages begin
by a "system exclusive code" followed by the instrument identifier
(brand - type ....), all the instrument specific data you want to send
and end by an "end of S.E. message" code. I don't remember the
hexadecimal values, sorry... Typically this is the structure of the
sound patches you want to load in your synth from a computer or store in
the opposite way.
In between you have the "system common" messages, for example "progam
change" . If you send a "progam change 54" on the channel 10, all the
instruments listening on this channel will jump on the patch n° 54 no
matter what is their brand and model.
You can have more details on MIDI on Wikipedia or other websites.
About substractive synthesis... as the name says you remove some
harmonics by filtering an electronic signal. The most popular, available
on most synths because they are easy to produce : sawtooth, square,
triangle, sine... this refers to the waveform of the signal. Each has a
different harmonic content , i.e. sine has no harmonics , square only
odd harmonics ... leading to different type of sounds.
Sine gives a very dull sound, triangle sounds a bit like a wood flute,
saw sounds like strings or brass, square waves can emulate a pipe organ
or an oboe... Suggestion : take one of the sounds of your AN200, get
into the edit mode and change only the waveform of the VCOs, then listen.
PWM applies to the square wave and changes its duty cycle periodically
with a LFO for example, changing its harmonic content (extreme duty
cycles add some even harmonics)
Ring modulation multiplies 2 waveforms giving birth to "unharmonic
harmonics", very useful for example to emulate bells, cymbals or add a
"metallic edge" to a sound depending on the level of modulation.
That's all for the"electronics course" this evening...once again you can
visit Wikipedia, at the page "sound synthesis techniques".
Tutorial : i have something called "AN1x voice setup guide" somewhere in
my computer, i'll send it to you directly if i can remember where is the
file. Of course the split or dual layer sound are out of reach of the
AN200 but the sound examples are well explained, how to do, why choose a
saw and not a triangle, what does an enveloppe, a LFO etc.. etc...
M Audio "Oxygen 25" : i'm afraid it has no MIDI out socket, only USB,
and the AN200 has no USB ... The similar M-Audio "Axiom 25" has both USB
AND MIDI ports : if you want only 25 keys, take this one...
Cheers.
J.F.
>
>
> --- El mar 27-abr-10, Jeff <jf.serviere@...
> <mailto:jf.serviere%40wanadoo.fr>> escribió:
>
> De: Jeff <jf.serviere@... <mailto:jf.serviere%40wanadoo.fr>>
> Asunto: Re: [AN1x] bring all the power to real life
> Para: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AN1x-list%40yahoogroups.com>
> Fecha: martes, 27 de abril de 2010, 15:53
>
> Hello doc' !
> you're right : you can buy a MIDI keyboard with some extra knobs and
> switches to get a deeper access to your AN200 parameters without any
> computer. And of course to play it with real keys...
> BUT ...
> 1) be sure that your future keyboard's knobs are user programmable, i.e.
> you can address a specific MIDI control inside your sound box not
> available from the front panel with a dedicated switch or knob on the
> keyboard.
> 2)be sure that you have the complete manual and MIDI implementation
> chart of both the AN200 and the keyboard in order to program all that
> stuff .
> 3) maybe the most important thing : some master keyboards have only an
> USB i/o, not the traditionnal MIDI in and MIDI out ports, because
> they're intended to control "virtual synth" softwares on a computer and
> not a hardware instrument such as the AN200.
> And don't forget to keep cool once you have your new keyboard,
> programming the knobs can be a little time consuming.
> Some affordable gear : look at M-Audio or CME master keyboards.
> Cheers
> J.F.
>
> dr_saraza_atiende a écrit :
> >
> > hi there, last week i bought a yamaha an200, is my firts synthesizer
> > and i´m learning a lot of things with this box, i´m very happy with
> > the overall sound, althougt i dont have other machine to compare to.
> > since i read the manual there is a question that is eating me: Can i
> > bring all the synthesis potential back to real life not using the
> > software?. Im a live musician so, i dont want to be tight to a
> > computer to get all the programing hability out. So i was thinking on
> > buying a midi controller in order to have a keyboard to play. But when
> > i realized that this box has hidden things like: ring modulator, pwm,
> > LF2, etc. the idea of controlling this hidden things from knobs in the
> > midi keyboard suddenly appear. Is that posible o is just a crazy idea?
> > I hope someone could help me.
> > Chears from Argentina!
> >
> >
>
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Re: [AN1x] bring all the power to real life
2010-05-13 by Nicolás Marquestó