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yep
in this case, I think the best bet is just set everyone in moderation now, 
let your legit users posts and unset them .. leave the rest ...

you got sleeper spammers now in the group... I had a few in a group
I took over a while back... every so often, a spam ... set them all
in moderation, then unset the real users ... problem gone ..
this does not help the member number as you will never know
the true number of legit users esp. if the spammer sets his email to no email ..
no bounce then on post to know that account has been deleted ...
so my next trick is, set members to email who have not posted in 6 months
to a year ... I weed them out ... time consuming but such is the life of a owner/moderator ...

there is one group I belong too, the owner/moderator only allows messages they approve ..
so you get a update from that group in 20 or 30 messages at a time ... he refuses due to spammers in the past
to unset legit users ... big time work for him ...but members there seem not to mind ... I have that group set in digest
most of the time ... 

Good luck Jon on getting it back under control ... what ever you have to do, that is fine with me ....

dale

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Peter Korsten 
<snip>> Give a trail and you will appreciate me for this. You can also earn money by referring your friends.

No, I don't think the more stringent measures are working.

What I do on 'my' list on Yahoo is requiring approval for registration, 
and moderate their posts until the first one that is on-topic.

- Peter

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