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Thanks for your reply, Jon.

Sorry if I did not explain myself well. I was trying to be brief. I 
will now give you a fuller explanation  Please forgive the length of 
this post:

The problem is that without an AN1 format file I cannot edit the 
patches, move them to different locations in the internal board 
memory or even combine them with my own patches or the excellent 
patches I have discovered on this forum.  Here's why:

1.  The only way to edit or move voices around in the internal board 
memory is using the Expert Editor.  This cannot be done from the PLG 
board's host keyboard.  All you can do is load the entire W2b bulk 
file and save an entire W2B bulk file, which will, of course be 
unchanged unless edited in some way.

1.  The only way to get a voice or group of voices into the Expert 
Editor is with a AN1 file.  It will not load W2B files.  The PLG 
cannot transmit data to the Expert Editor or anything else.  It can 
only receive date transmitted to it by the Expert Editor. Data goes 
only one way: from Expert Editor to the board.

3.  The Regenerator sound library comes only with the W2B files for 
bulk loading into the board.  I was informed that Dave Polich lost 
his AN1 files when upgrading from OS9 to OSX.  Because this 
particular upgrade caused a fair amount of grief to many of us, I
light heartedly referred to it as a "debacle."  Sorry if you didn't 
appreciate the intended humor.

End result: I've got some brilliantly programmed board voices in 
Regenerator that I cannot edit or combine with my own sounds.  This 
frustrates me. so I was seeking advice on this list as to how I 
could convert the W2B files into AN1 files.  You have already save 
me a large Ebay expenditure by eliminating the idea of using an AN1X
to convert the files.  Thanks.  Your other idea, of loading into the 
PLG and transmitting to the AN Editor, won't work because PLGs don't 
transmit data, only receive.

Remember, I am talking about the actual board voices that live on 
the PLG, not the limited tweaks you can do on the host keyboards 
voices that use the PLG voices.

So, is there any way to do this conversion?  

(Of course, I am a newbie to this stuff.  Maybe I have misunderstood 
something. That is why I am posting on this list.)

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

K.




--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" <jondl_2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "okiikahuna" <okiikahuna@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all.  I'm new to this forum.  I am using a humble PLG150AN 
card 
> > in my S90ES.  I recently purchased Dave Polich's Regenerator 
library 
> > from Keyfax and discovered that it only comes with the W2B/W3B 
files 
> > needed to load the sounds onto the PLG card.  
> 
> Like it says on their web site. right?
> 
> http://secure.keyfax.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
> Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=VRegenerator
> 
> From the little bit of reading on the S90 I've done, it seems it 
should be able to 
> accomodate W2b/W3b (bulk dump) files. Check out this thread:
> 
> http://www.sninety.com/forums/showflat.php?
> Cat=1,3&Board=Plugboard&Number=5783&page=10&view=collapsed&sb=6&o=
> 
> What exactly is the problem?
> 
> > Dave Polich tells me 
> > the AN1 files are unavailable, apparently a casualty of our good 
> > friend Steve Jobs' OSX debacle.
> 
> what?!?!?!? This makes no sense, what does OS X have to do with 
your problem? OS X is 
> hardly a debacle in itself by any reasonable standard.
> 
> > 
> > Obviously, since my PLG card can't save AN1 files and the AN 
Expert 
> > Editor can't load W2B files, this means I cannot edit or 
rearrange 
> > the sound library in any way.  Can't alter the notes in a 
sequence. I 
> > can't even combine my own voices with the Regenerator board 
voices.  
> > Very frustrating.  
> > 
> > So, my question is: How can I get an AN1 file of this set?  Can 
I 
> > load the W2B files into an AN1X and then save as AN1 files?  
(Not 
> > having an AN1X, I don't know if this is a daft question)  
Anybody 
> > have any suggestions.
> > 
> 
> W2b/W3b files cannot be loadd into an AN1x. This format is 
specific to the Motif/S90 
> series w/ a PLG plug-in card, just as you have indicated you use. 
> 
> Wh not load the W2b/W3b files into the PLG150-AN as intended THEN 
use AN1xEdit, AN 
> Expert Editor, etc. to retrieve the files in a bulk dump to .AN1 
or .ANS format?
> 
> You really need to clarify what exactly the problem is and what 
steps you've taken so far. 
> Your post comes across as a rant without any substance. Sorry, not 
trying to be mean.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Jon
>