200e

Hi Ezra, I am very happy that you try to help so quick :-).

> If i enter the EDIT mode and press start or if i play a sequence and
> enter the EDIT mode my sequence sounds totally different to what it
> sounds in normal mode (no Edit) mode. Is this a Bug or a Feature or is
> there just something wrong with my unit?

you mean the timings or output voltages are different when you're in
edit mode? i've never seen that before. it would be a very strange
defect. it seems much more likely that you've changed something else
as well as going to edit mode, like setting a jump, changing the time
scaling, or changing the output voltage range, all of which are easily
accomplished by accident.

It looks like it is a bug in my unit.

It only happen with CV1 out. CV2 out works normal!
How to reproduce. 

It only happen if i use a different voltage range from all. I mean if i use "all" it works normal.  

If i enter "edit" with "0-2", "2-4", "4-6", "6-8" or "8-10" mode the cv out acts like it is in "all" mode. Same voltage (pitch).
For me it looks like that the Edit Mode of "CV1 out" do not remember in which voltage range the sequencer works. It always used "all" voltage range in edit.


> 261e
>
> Principal OSC
>
> if i send a signal to the "CV in" or "FM in" the Sound get modulated
> by knob position center / zero. I mean it get modulated without
> turning the mount knob from center / zero position.

the FM knob is zeroed at the fully counter-clockwise position. the CV
input scaling knob is zeroed at twelve-o-clock (there is a detent
there.)

remember that because the 200e uses presets, any knob parameter may,
at any time, have a value that doesn't correspond to the physical knob
position. most knobs interpolate between their physical position and
the stored parameter value. to "reset" the knob, sweep it back and
forth across its full range.

Done this but it does not help. i will upload an Audio file.  

Thank you 


Kai


      

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Hi Ezra,


> 
> are you working with cv or fm input?

for sure with cv input.

> 
> assuming you're working with cv: is there any position you can place
> the knob that does successfully zero the modulation? like slightly
> left of the detent?

no there is no point without. As soon as you input the connection you
can hear the Modulation. (while the knob is in center position)

hi,

> It only happen with CV1 out. CV2 out works normal!
> How to reproduce.
>
> It only happen if i use a different voltage range from all. I mean if i use
> "all" it works normal.
>
> If i enter "edit" with "0-2", "2-4", "4-6", "6-8" or "8-10" mode the cv out
> acts like it is in "all" mode. Same voltage (pitch).
> For me it looks like that the Edit Mode of "CV1 out" do not remember in
> which voltage range the sequencer works. It always used "all" voltage range
> in edit.

ok, thanks for the details. i will try and reproduce it.

> Done this but it does not help. i will upload an Audio file.

no need to upload an audio file, i believe you. still need some details:

are you working with cv or fm input?

assuming you're working with cv: is there any position you can place
the knob that does successfully zero the modulation? like slightly
left of the detent?

> Thank you

you're very welcome. i'd really prefer, however, that bug discussions
be addressed to the beta group, or directly to me. this a purely
selfish request for my own sanity.

-eb

> Kai

ok, i'll rephrase: is the modulation you notice at the detent positive
or negative? if it's positive, can you make it get smaller buy turning
it to the left? if it's negative, can you make it smaller by turning
to the right?

there is some position that will be read as a no-op; the dead band is
programmed in firmware. we could reprogram the dead band to be bigger,
but this could potentially throw off many users including myself.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:45 AM, kai200e <kai200e@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Ezra,
>
>>
>> are you working with cv or fm input?
>
> for sure with cv input.
>
>>
>> assuming you're working with cv: is there any position you can place
>> the knob that does successfully zero the modulation? like slightly
>> left of the detent?
>
> no there is no point without. As soon as you input the connection you
> can hear the Modulation. (while the knob is in center position)
>
>

Please do not make the deadband larger.  I think it's a bit big as it  
is (sincerely)

On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:16 AM, ezra buchla wrote:

> ok, i'll rephrase: is the modulation you notice at the detent positive
> or negative? if it's positive, can you make it get smaller buy turning
> it to the left? if it's negative, can you make it smaller by turning
> to the right?
>
> there is some position that will be read as a no-op; the dead band is
> programmed in firmware. we could reprogram the dead band to be bigger,
> but this could potentially throw off many users including myself.
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:45 AM, kai200e <kai200e@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi Ezra,
> >
> >>
> >> are you working with cv or fm input?
> >
> > for sure with cv input.
> >
> >>
> >> assuming you're working with cv: is there any position you can  
> place
> >> the knob that does successfully zero the modulation? like slightly
> >> left of the detent?
> >
> > no there is no point without. As soon as you input the connection  
> you
> > can hear the Modulation. (while the knob is in center position)
> >
> >
>
>

that's my opinion too.

anyway, right now it's looking like kai's system might have some power
supply issues; might not have anything to do with anything.

-eb

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:29 PM, damon <damon@mac.com> wrote:
> Please do not make the deadband larger. I think it's a bit big as it
> is (sincerely)
>
> On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:16 AM, ezra buchla wrote:
>
>> ok, i'll rephrase: is the modulation you notice at the detent positive
>> or negative? if it's positive, can you make it get smaller buy turning
>> it to the left? if it's negative, can you make it smaller by turning
>> to the right?
>>
>> there is some position that will be read as a no-op; the dead band is
>> programmed in firmware. we could reprogram the dead band to be bigger,
>> but this could potentially throw off many users including myself.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:45 AM, kai200e <kai200e@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Ezra,
>> >
>> >>
>> >> are you working with cv or fm input?
>> >
>> > for sure with cv input.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> assuming you're working with cv: is there any position you can
>> place
>> >> the knob that does successfully zero the modulation? like slightly
>> >> left of the detent?
>> >
>> > no there is no point without. As soon as you input the connection
>> you
>> > can hear the Modulation. (while the knob is in center position)
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>