200e

oh oops a correction... you can't store presets externally for more than 1
210e... some other modules as well? (i should find out) this is simply a
limitation on the size of the storage on the external cards.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM, ezra buchla <ezra.buchla@gmail.com> wrote:

> the idea is you will probably be able to design your patches in such a way
> that most cable routings remain fixed, and use the 210e for the few where
> you think, "dang it would be awesome to send this thing over here and then
> over here and then these two things there and then nothing."
>
> since you can have very radically different sounds and behaviors even with
> the same cable routing and different presets, this usually isn't a problem.
>
> if you need more patch switching, you can always get an additional 210e.
> think of that module as a potential tool for composition, and not as an
> integral part of a "total recall" system; it may be crucial to your goals to
> have more than one but i'd try playing with it for a while, first.
>
> total recall is already possible, since all the knob settings are stored
> and all you have to remember is what plugs into what ( a binary decision for
> each possible connection, and easily accomplished on paper)... a synth
> design that went any further would probably just eliminate the patchcords,
> and patchcords are fun.
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:38 PM, fhserge <Frank.Hettlich@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Jon,
>>
>> thanks for your detailed explanation!
>>
>> You confirm my "fear" that it is very hard (or at least limiting) to get a
>> "completely storable modular system" even with the 200e!
>>
>> We know that well known people like Richard Lainhart (and probably
>> Alessandro Cortini) work live with a 200e, question was how they handle the
>> challenge to be able to quickly (!) recall different "complete patches".
>>
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com <200e%40yahoogroups.com>, jon schatz <jon@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 5, 2009, at 4:10 PM, fhserge wrote:
>> > > any further explanation on your side? Would be happy to be
>> > > enlightened on that matter...
>> >
>> > so your original email was about "complete patch storage". you
>> > mentioned the limited number of cv and audio outs on the 210e and
>> > questioned getting a second one.
>> >
>> > my answer was sort of in jest. in my usage patterns i hardly ever
>> > setup patches with only 5 audio / cv routings. even with certain hard-
>> > coded setups (all my 281e outputs shorted to 292e inputs, all the 292e
>> > ouputs into all the 227e inputs, etc) i need more than 5 extra cables
>> > to recall a preset. so then getting a second (or a third!) 210e seems
>> > like a solution but eventually i'm dealing with so many outputs /
>> > inputs on those modules that i need some sort of module to simplify
>> > them. hence, one more 210e.
>> >
>> > i think it's a losing battle to truly come up with a system of presets
>> > that solely uses the 210e and doesn't require manual patching around
>> > unless you've only get 2 or 3 modules (and even then, really hard).
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> >
>> > -jon
>> > "There are no differences but differences of degree between different
>> > degrees
>> > of difference and no difference."
>> > - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882;
>> > Vol 7.
>> >
>>
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