the idea is you will probably be able to design your patches in such a way that most cable routings remain fixed, and use the 210e for the few where you think, "dang it would be awesome to send this thing over here and then over here and then these two things there and then nothing." since you can have very radically different sounds and behaviors even with the same cable routing and different presets, this usually isn't a problem. if you need more patch switching, you can always get an additional 210e. think of that module as a potential tool for composition, and not as an integral part of a "total recall" system; it may be crucial to your goals to have more than one but i'd try playing with it for a while, first. total recall is already possible, since all the knob settings are stored and all you have to remember is what plugs into what ( a binary decision for each possible connection, and easily accomplished on paper)... a synth design that went any further would probably just eliminate the patchcords, and patchcords are fun. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:38 PM, fhserge <Frank.Hettlich@gmx.net> wrote: > > > Jon, > > thanks for your detailed explanation! > > You confirm my "fear" that it is very hard (or at least limiting) to get a > "completely storable modular system" even with the 200e! > > We know that well known people like Richard Lainhart (and probably > Alessandro Cortini) work live with a 200e, question was how they handle the > challenge to be able to quickly (!) recall different "complete patches". > > > Frank > > --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com <200e%40yahoogroups.com>, jon schatz <jon@...> > wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 5, 2009, at 4:10 PM, fhserge wrote: > > > any further explanation on your side? Would be happy to be > > > enlightened on that matter... > > > > so your original email was about "complete patch storage". you > > mentioned the limited number of cv and audio outs on the 210e and > > questioned getting a second one. > > > > my answer was sort of in jest. in my usage patterns i hardly ever > > setup patches with only 5 audio / cv routings. even with certain hard- > > coded setups (all my 281e outputs shorted to 292e inputs, all the 292e > > ouputs into all the 227e inputs, etc) i need more than 5 extra cables > > to recall a preset. so then getting a second (or a third!) 210e seems > > like a solution but eventually i'm dealing with so many outputs / > > inputs on those modules that i need some sort of module to simplify > > them. hence, one more 210e. > > > > i think it's a losing battle to truly come up with a system of presets > > that solely uses the 210e and doesn't require manual patching around > > unless you've only get 2 or 3 modules (and even then, really hard). > > > > thanks, > > > > -jon > > "There are no differences but differences of degree between different > > degrees > > of difference and no difference." > > - James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882; > > Vol 7. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [200e] Re: Who uses the "store" feature of the 200e
2009-06-05 by ezra buchla
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