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Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Vangelis sounds

From: laurie <laurie@...>
Date: 2006-04-07

we also should include the bass line of "Billy Jean"from MJs thriller
album and the Gun Shot that killed J.R. as CS80 offspring.......I "by
the way"immediatly recognized the CS80 when I heard it on Kate Bushes
and Stevies Stuff......It was Stevies favorite because of its
expressiveness with the poly AT.....he gained higher ground with the
clav sound....and the initial pitch bend on Bushes stuff screamed 80....

Wavecomputer360 wrote:

> Well, to use a term from NLP, the CS80 sound is firmly "anchored"
> with
> Vangelis, full stop. You can do whatever you want, you will
> automatically
> end up producing a sound reminiscent of Vangelis because he really
> used the
> CS80 like no other. Very much like using a Mellotron and ∗not∗
> sounding
> quite like King Crimson, Moody Blues, Genesis, or Tangerine Dream. I
> would
> never ever associate the CS80 with people like Stevie Wonder, Herbie
> Hancock, Mike Oldfield, or Kate Bush because they never explored the
> sonic
> potential of this instrument, to them it was just another polyphonic
> synthesizer which happened to be more expressive than, say, a Prophet
> 5 or
> Oberheim OB-X, let alone a Polymoog.
>
> It´s one thing to use the sound, it´s another thing to play your own
> music
> with it.
>
> It doesn´t have to be a Lexicon 224XL, btw. Any decent digital reverb
> which
> doesn´t produce a tinny type of sound but reasonably thick reverb
> washes can
> be used for that. EMT 246 works great, so does a Klark Teknik DN 780,
> and
> there are plenty of lower-market devices that also sound great (unless
>
> you´re using a Behringer Virtualizer). I would stay away from those
> early
> digital reverbs. Like my tech put it, they are "ticking timebombs"...
>
> Stephen.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Max Fazio <faxiomas@...>
> To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Vangelis sounds
>
>
> > OK, the 224 plays a role into the Vangelis sound, but I wish we all
> aren't
> > limited by just trying to reproduce something already exhistent in
> the
> real
> > world...otherwise we will end up all being just copycats, better do
> deal
> > with creativity!For example a friend of mine did a live gig with a
> CS60
> > sometimes "played" through a Space-Echo...well, guys it is terrific
> how
> > these two tools sound when they're together, the guy made some
> unearthly
> > sounds which buried all the Vangelis and krautrockers out
> there...Also
> > amazing is to use the CS with some external modulation efx, for
> example
> and
> > with a decent chorus you can have a MIX=0 CS80 out of a CS50 or 60,
> or
> like
> > Jobson did on the "Green" LP by using a phaser....go beyond!
> > M
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "system_700" <voyetra8@...>
> > To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:15 AM
> > Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Vangelis sounds
> >
> >
> > > Personally, I think the trademark Vangelis sound is more than just
> the
> > > CS-80. The Lexicon 224 Reverberator has a lot to do with his
> > > atmospheric sound.
> > >
> > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "philodryasbr" <arremesse@...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am new to this group and have checked the files bank looking
> for
> > > > some Vangelis like sounds but unfortunately could not find it
> here :(
> > > > I have tried to program some myself but I think the sounds used
> by
> > > > Vangelis was improved by some great reverb modules.Can anyone
> point me
> > > > to some patches for the CS80 that sounds like Vangelis Strings
> or
> > > Brass?
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
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