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Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] CS80 Vanishing voices mystery

From: nicolas <zenithaudio2003@...>
Date: 2018-08-17

one thing to check also on cs-80 ! if you slide the modules chassis up and down a lot ,,, check at the black wires junction that there is no broken or corroded wires or on the verge of breaking   . On mine moving up and down the rack a lot , the main  GND 2  black got broken  ( +8.5V/-6.5V ) .. so the supply lost ground reference ,,  the synth was working but the positive and negative rails were moving ( floating )  in parallel up and down moving the keyboard controls levers . That was a bitch to debug ,, it is not evident to see a broken wire at that location ,, there are so many grouped there .

for your problem : you have output on pin 8 of IC5/CP5  , but cannot control VCA/IC6  when triggered . Have you checked if you receive the trigger signal at TR(63) ( broken/corroded/cold solder ) . if yes  check your EG signal  scope/meter TP2 if yes them funky final vca IC6 

You seem to be in control of that bug , you are not far from a solution , nice work DUDE !  check for cold solder joint with freeze mist (were talking about heat related bug ) 

remember that the trigger is for both voices so if the other voice is working it is not the trigger circuit .  check for trigger signal first , could be a corroded or broken wire ( white as i remember ????) so many colors . 

hoping IG00159 is good ,, there is plenty of VCA out there but way less IG159 



 





On Thursday, August 16, 2018, 8:50:04 p.m. EDT, pyjamagroove@... [yamahacs80] <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Well, one of my voices just died as described. Took it out, checked but it started to work again so impossible to trace the cause. Now when i have installed the voice card back it died again lol...

No output on 0 terminal (out) Now its really dead. I have traced the problem to the IC2 (the EG amp). It has no output. When i turn the VR17 more (initial level) the voice is sounding so I think the card is mostly ok...the problem is envelope / trigger related (TRG boards??). I will investigate more tomorrow.