No......no run for its money.... although the attempt seemed to be there.... ....the CS80 does not rely on envelope alone for its swells... -----Original message----- From: matrix matrixsynth@... Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:28:43 -0600 To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com Subject: [yamahacs80] OB-Xa Blade Runner