Archive of the former Yahoo!Groups mailing list: Yamaha CS80

previous by date index next by date
previous in topic topic list next in topic

Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: CS80 PSU mod-anyone ever done this?

From: rj krohn <r_j_d_2.phila@...>
Date: 2007-11-06

thanks for the heads up, rob. you think even steer clear of the internal heatsink approach?

blchrr@... wrote: fwiw, i went down the route of modding the cs80 with some external fx built
into the unit... (changing the Cs80 chorus for a dc-2 circuit and changing
the tremolo circuit for a PH-3 circuit)
it was a BAD idea, DO NOT mod classic synths, leave them as they are...
Fortunately i only modified (drilled for extra pots) the modulation panel, i
managed to source another modulation panel and am changing it back
completely to a standard unit...
My own fault... but my answer is DONT modify the Cs80, work with what you
have...

> ahhhh, thanks for the thought, JH. that makes sense. i would rather not pioneer a mod on a synth that is as rare as this, but it seems to be very sensible and almost simple. im envisioning nothing more than a 3-5 ft umbilical-style cord with a multi-pin connector that screws in(my trident console has one that would work perfectly), mounted in the base of the chassis, right where the PSU is now. then you could set the psu on the floor within a few feet of the base of the chassis(of course mounted in its own chassis!).
>
> i wonder, how much impedance could be lost between 8" and 5'? (i guess thats a question for my multimeter.)
>
>
>
> "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote: I've never done this (in fact, my CS-80 isn't even in my home yet), but I'll
> offer one thought nevertheless:
>
> The GND impedance may be a problem.
>
> Linear VCOs are very sensitive to small offset voltages in the low frequency
> range, so a voltage drop across the GND connection may be a problem. I have
> that theory, which isn't any more than a gut feeling right now, and may be
> totally wrong, that the slight coupling via voltage drop ∗inside∗ the CS-80
> may play a role in it's increadible lush-ness - then a longer GND path might
> turn the feature into a problem.
> But then again there's a servo sensing for the PSU regulation if memory
> serves - that would ∗allow∗ a rmote PSU (with sense and power wires both
> going thru the umbilical cord).
>
> JH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rj krohn" <r_j_d_2.phila@...>
> To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:31 PM
> Subject: [yamahacs80] CS80 PSU mod-anyone ever done this?
>
> hi folks, i wanted to ask why a particular mod has never been discussed, or
> done, to my knowledge on CS80's. hoping for some practical answers, to see
> if i consider should setting out on this.
>
> it seems like it would be relatively easy to detach the PSU from the CS80,
> and make it an external unit. im assuming that most(if not all) of the
> reknowned pitch instability/temperature issues were due to the massive
> PSU/input transformer. after seeing this firsthand, i see there are just two
> harnesses and a ground wire that connect to the rest of the synth. it seems
> like it would be pretty easy to take the PSU out, install 1 or 2 connectors
> to adapt the harnesses to, and build an external box for the PSU. there cant
> be more than 16-18 total harness pins for the rails of the PSU. by now, im
> sure every cs80 in existence is a studio unit, and this wouldnt be too
> inconvenient, and could potentially help the stability. of course, the
> connector would have to be a screw-in type that could be well secured to the
> chassis.
>
> is there a reason this hasnt been done, or has this been covered already,
> and a terrible idea for some reason? thanks guys!
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


Regards,
Rob Belcher
www.myspace.com/duplx




__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]