Yes, both switches are on and the led " tape enable " is lid. Then I push button " from tape " and the led lights up. I load the data but the " found " and " loading " led don't come up. I tried severall output volumes. I also tried the " verify " procedure but the " error " led doesn't come up when I increase the output volume. I will ceck the KLM 367 again to see if all traces are okay.... Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad At 15-mei-2015 22:32:19, backshall1@bellsouth.net [PolySix]<'PolySix@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:
Tape Enable and Write Enable switches are both on? I don’t know what the
signal level should be. Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [PolySix] some defects after battery
leak
I also think it's a good idea to load the factory patches. So I can exclude the controls... I found my original Korg data cassette and I tried to load the data but it didn't work. ( I heard sound in my headphone when playing the tape ) Then I downloaded the wav file from internet and took my portable but i am not able to load the data. It's not working. I have the procedure how to load the data. I measure 200 mV ac signal ( I don't have an oscilloscope ) on the data connector but there is no data loaded ( the found and loading leds don't light when I play the wav file ) Damned !
At 15-mei-2015 15:58:02,
backshall1@bellsouth.net [PolySix]PolySix@yahoogroups.com'>
wrote:
I like Bob’s suggestion. If you load the factory presets and try a
bunch of
them without turning any knobs and they sound correct, then
the D/A converter is
probably okay. I don’t know how familiar you
are with the factory sounds, but if
they sound reasonable and are
not “growling” then they are probably okay. In
this case, it could
be a MUX problem. There are four 4051
multiplexer/demultiplexer
chips (14051 is the Toshiba number). There are two
used as
multiplexers on the panel boards and two used as demultiplexers on the
KLM-367 board. -IC1 on the KLM-370 is the multiplexer for Effects speed, Filter
and
Envelope Generator settings, and Keyboard tracking. -IC2 on the KLM-369 is the multiplexer for PWM and EG (LFO)
controls, but
you haven’t mentioned any problems with those. -IC18 on the KLM-367 is the Demultiplexer for Effects, Filter, EG,
Kbd
Tracking. -IC19 on the KLM-367 is the Demultiplexer for PWM and EG. There are a bunch of control lines to check here: -P20, P21, P22 on processor IC22 pins 21, 22, 23 going to each of
the four
chips pin 11, 10, 9. -Two Inhibit signals from IC23 pins 1 and 3. The INH1 (IC23 pin 1)
is
connected to IC 1 on KLM-370 pin 6 and INH2 goes from IC23 pin 3
up to panel
board KLM-369 IC2 pin 6. - Two Inhibit signals from IC23 pins 4 and 10, to IC18 pin 6 and
IC19 pin 6
respectively. If you have a dual trace oscilloscope, you should see that the
pairs of
inhibit signals are opposites of each other. When INH1 is
high, INH2 should be
low, and vice-versa. Don B. Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [PolySix] some defects after battery
leak
The only fault is the growling sound and the VCF that acts as an EG. All leds are functioning as they should. When I switch on the PS6 bank A en 1 are lid and then I put it in manual mode so the light from 1 goes out . The corresponding lights for buttons A to D and numbers1 to 8 work when selected. When I put the VCA in EG mode and turn sustain to 0 there is no sound, thats normal, but when I then turn the resonance knob above 3 the sound comes up smoothly and increases in level ( it's difficult to explain, you should see it ) Resonance doesn't work at all as it should : it varies the sound but there is no " high resonance " sound when turning it high ( and turning cut off towards zero ) the only thing that you hear is the sound becoming growling. Same with turning cut off, eg intensity, kbd track beneath 3 or above 7 and also when increasing the intensity for phaser and ensemble.... Very strange . All other things work : tune, bend, VCO ,MG , EG and VCA , arpeggio and key assign . Sent from Yahoo Mail for
iPad
At 15-mei-2015
14:08:11,
backshall1@bellsouth.net
[PolySix]PolySix@yahoogroups.com'>
wrote:
You are correct about IC24 being marked incorrectly on the
schematic as
IC34. It shows two chips marked
IC34, but the one
beside IC30 should be IC24. I
have that written on my paper copy of
the
schematics. Here is the list I have of
schematic
errors for the
KLM-367. 1) On IC30 and IC31, pin 5 in connected to +5v, not pin
4. 2) IC30 ground pin is pin 7, not pin 1. 3) The 14042 chip below IC26 is IC24, not IC34. 4) The capacitor connected between R28 and pin 6 of IC3 is
C5, not
C4. 5) The diode on pin 9 of IC29 is D13, not D12. 6) The diode on pin 15 of IC29 is D14, not D13. 7) The signal from pin 7 of IC14 is MG Level, not MG
Speed. 8) Capacitor C33 is connected to the collector of Q5, not
the other
side of
R98. 9) The LM339 quad comparator is IC2, not IC3. Are there any other symptoms besides the growling sound,
maybe
lights
turning on when they shouldn’t
on the A-D or 0-9 patch
buttons? Any other
buttons not working properly? It sounds like it
could be a D/A converter
calibration
problem. Don B. Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [PolySix] some defects after battery
leak I tested all sugested data
lines and
they all
are okay. One remark :
datalines D04-D07 have to be tested
to IC30, IC24,
IC33, IC29,
IC35) and not IC34; there is a faulty diagram of
KLM367 on the
internet . The
problem
still persists. I doublecheked the powersupply and
all
voltages are okay. So
does anyone here
have another suggestion? I
think it's mainly the VCF that
causes all the problems. turning cut
off,
resonance or KBD track changes the
sound from
good into a
growling sound. Also the ensemle gives growling
sounds
when turning
phase or ensemle too low
or too high. regards and
thanks in
advance Most of the damage is
usually on
the
eight data lines (D00-D07) and
that includes IC30 as well as
IC31. The best way
to test these is to use the ohm meter to test
continuity from one starting point
to all the
other places these
lines are connected. From a suggestion
from Andy
Jury a long time
ago, I usually
test from connector CN10 to all the other chips.
This
can be a bit tedious. D00 is pin 4 on CN10,
and needs to be tested to
IC31,
IC26, IC33,
IC28, IC34, then do the same set of tests for the
other
seven data
lines on CN10. Alternatively, you
could start from
IC31 pin 6 and test
continuity to IC26, CN10, IC33, IC28, IC34. When
you get to D04-D07, it will be
a different
set of chips (IC30, IC34,
CN10, IC29, IC35). Don Backshall
Subject: Re: [PolySix]
some
defects after
battery
leak
Thanks for the reply. I repaired traces that were broken and I checked if there was continuity between traces that should not be connected to each other. I did this only for IC 31 maybe I will take a wider aerea to check on continuity. The weird thing is that most things work as they should and then when you turn one knob several parameters are changed and not only the one you turn. I put it in manual mode so all knobs function as they are set and then I can get some rather good sound but for example when I then turn the resonance of the VCF a bit then other parameters seem to have changed....any other info? I replaced the IC31 and put it on a socket. Could it be that another IC is defective when I have this strange behavior or do you think this is mostly a result of the corrosion? Thanks again for the reply
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