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For the Brick Audio plate we chose stainless steel to avoid therust problem associated with the cold rolled steel of the EMT plates.I worked for Gibson guitar in their string division and throughthat experience became aware of the effect metal composition has onstrings. So when I found I had a choose in types of stainless, I wentwith a high nickel content which gave a better high end. Thus toflatten the sound we had to roll off the high end which increased thesignal to noise ratio.Today with the proliferation of outboard mic pre-amps, I ammaking the plates passive, which allows the user to use their mic presfor send and return. I had had great luck using the send section ofvarious boards (Tascam, Mackie, Soundcraft) to drive the plate, with amic pre on the return to warm it up.Another trick with the plate, a spring or a tape machinefunctioning as a reverb is to insert a delay before the reverb and sendonly the delayed signal. Gives the same response as the live chamberthat Abbey Road has. That great Beatles vocal delayed cross channelvocal wash.If anyone is interested please contact me off group to discussacquisition of a plate.Bill
From:Thomas C. Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
To:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, October 10,2010 9:54:34 PM
Subject: Re:[newmellotrongroup] Re: Tape echo and spring reverb
I've heard of the Brick plates before. Never played the tronthrough one
but would like to.
I've recorded with an EMT gold plate- the old Delta studio had one. Itwas
warm, the best reverb I have heard for mellotron to date. I've alwaysused
a spring reverb- had a Premier in the 70's and one made byamp builderTim
Van right now. The current one is tube and has a warm tone but a
relatively short time. In the 70's if someone had showed me the Alessis
midiverb I would have thrown my spring unit in the trash. That wouldhave
been a mistake. Now I'm thinking of finding an EMT somewhere or tryingout
the Brick!
> Univox echos can be had cheap., kind've basic. If you are luckyenough
> to
> get a tape echo, don't forget to use back lubricated tape. It canstill
> be
> had and a $50 reel will last a decade or more, it's the same stuffthey
> fill
> broadcast carts with, you don't need Roland loops. Lately I liketo use
> shorter loops, I change them according to a schedule, so i havebeen
> bulking
> and cutting down 8 Track tapes, this is the cheapest and easiestmethod of
> getting back coated tape. It is good 1/4" hifi tape. A tape echowith a
> fresh tape sounds amazing. The RE201D is a good device and so isthe old
> Chandler solid state echo emulator.
>
> Another great and cheap source of tape echo is reel to reel tapedecks.
> Set
> the playback source to tape and input to mic or line and thenadjust the
> echo with input volume and to a lesser degree with speed. if youtake the
> physical output and crosspatch it into the input you can get amild cross
> channel bounce. All you need is a fresh roll of tape. The stocksof reel
> tape is the best made in the past 35 years save Emitape whis hasalways
> been
> good.
>
> Anybody who needs a reel of 1/4" let me know, I can hook you up.
>
>
> gino
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:38 PM, william Beith <wbeith@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I build plate reverberation units and hold a patent on oneunder the
>> name
>> Brick Audio.
>>
>> If anyone has an interest I can send a pdf of the manual.
>>
>> Alas....I do not yet have a Mellotron to demo through it. Isuspect that
>> any studio smaller than Abbey Road (which had its ownchambers) used
>> EMT
>> 240 plate reverbs in their studio. So most 60's EuropeanMellotron
>> recordings with reverb could be assumed to be plate reverb.
>>
>> If American and recorded in the Capitol or Sunset studio'sthey also had
>> their own chambers. Everyone else uded plates, generally EMT240's.
>>
>> A 240 was a 3X6 foot steel plate. The Brick Audio plates are3X3, 3X5
>> and
>> 3X7 stainless steel eliminating the rust issues. The driver isbonded to
>> the
>> plate itself eliminating the need to calibrate/setup.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> ∗From:∗ Sean <fourtytwominds@yahoo.com>
>> ∗To:∗ newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> ∗Sent:∗ Sun, October 10, 2010 3:18:10 PM
>> ∗Subject:∗ [newmellotrongroup] Re: Tape echo and spring reverb
>>
>>
>>
>> I've never run across a real spring or plate unit. If anyonehas one,
>> would
>> you do a side by side comparison of spring and plate reverbfor the
>> Melly?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> --- In
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> tspit74@... wrote:
>> >
>> > I grabbed a Multivox MX-312 Multi Echo off Craigslistrecently and
>> finally hooked it up to #857. Holy shit! Nothing compares totape echo
>> and
>> spring reverb. The 312 is an off brand knockoff of the RolandRE-201
>> Space
>> Echo with some additional features. Particularly "swellreverb" which
>> adds a
>> swelling echo to the reverb signal. Lush doesn't begin todescribe it.
>> My
>> advice: If you haven't tried your tron thru an old tapeecho/spring
>> reverb,
>> you haven't lived. Tape to tape is a beautiful sound.
>> >
>> >
>> > Now back to playing some Starless...
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>