Well, that wasn't quite what I said. I said that the quality of their
originality made them worth listening to. Zappa in particular has done
an awful lot of sheer and utter nonsense, to my ears.
The only Mellotron I'm aware of from Zep is the flutes from 'Stairway'
when sometimes played live, 'Rain Song' and a smattering on 'Kashmir'. I
know that JPJ ∗hated∗ the thing with a rare passion.
As for BJH, I've yet to hear what it is about them that gets people so
wound up.
Mike
zappaboggs wrote:
> Mike,
>
> It's good to know that you are a Zep,Zap,Floyd fan...
>
> Me too...
>
> And what hurts most people is that you get a better dose of Tron from
> Zep then you do from others...
>
> ... Except BJH... Good job Wooly...
>
> /"But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play
> come out and play"/
> /...Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams/
>
> /"Nothing can change the shape of things to come." /
> /...Max Frost/
>
> /"Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"/
> /...Marsha Sinetar/
> //
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:40:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Second thoughts
>
> Well, someone asked the question.
>
> I find 95% of what passes for 'prog rock' to be ham-fisted, derivative
> and downright tedious. point is that I find most rock music per se to be
> in that same bracket. If you can synthesise something new out of what
> happened before (cf, Led Zep taking the ghost of Robert Johnson et al
> and welding it into rock and roll, or Zappa blending the arhythmic
> attitudes of early twentieth century composers with nearly ∗everything∗ ,
> or Pink Floyd taking a fairly standard blues course and accidentally
> bumping into someone who had taken a barrowload of acid) then it's worth
> at least spending some time negotiating, at least for their early years
> when they at least had genuine inspiration. But for the great swathes of
> the rest, it's a course in homage, plagarism, noodling and general
> stupidity on a ∗monolithic∗ scale.
>
> Right now it's Byrd and Weelkes getting an airing at my place. Next week
> it will be someone else.
>
> Mike
>
> john barrick wrote:
> >
> > well, let it not be said that Mike Dickson doesn't know how to kill a
> > party.
> > johnb
> >
> > Mike Dickson wrote:
> > >
> > > Things a bit more challenging than ∗prog rock∗ it must be said.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mark Pring wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike
> > > > I am curious, what is your favourite music?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > --- Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@ gmail.com
> <mailto:mike.dickson%40gmail.com>
> > <mailto:mike. dickson%40gmail. com>
> > > <mailto:mike. dickson%40gmail. com>
> > > > <mailto:mike. dickson%40gmail. com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is it 'nitpicking' to say that everything they ever
> > > > > did or thought about
> > > > > doing was bloody awful?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas C. Doncourt wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a cultural climate where there is so little
> > > > > being done that is new it
> > > > > > is hard for me to look back critically and nitpick
> > > > > at the Moody Blues.
> > > > > > Their tenuous, odd chemistry is at least still
> > > > > noteworthy after all these
> > > > > > years. I like the fact that they tried strange
> > > > > things. If Graeme Edge
> > > > > > thought of putting poetry in they let it happen. I
> > > > > can even tolerate the
> > > > > > falsetto harmonies for the reason of creative
> > > > > liberty, I know that Ray
> > > > > > Thomas added a lot of the sundry instruments that
> > > > > were not mellotron and
> > > > > > added dimension to the music. Too many bands are
> > > > > second guessing
> > > > > > themselves.
> > > > > > What I ma really curious about is what made Pinder
> > > > > pack it in after
> > > > > > reaching such a high note in 72.I wonder if some
> > > > > of that creative liberty
> > > > > > broke down in the band. did he just get sick of
> > > > > playing the mellotrons and
> > > > > > chamberlins?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > > > > > > Van: "Rick Blechta" <rick@rickblechta. com
> <mailto:rick%40rickblechta.com>
> > <mailto:rick% 40rickblechta. com>
> > > <mailto:rick% 40rickblechta. com>
> > > > <mailto:rick% 40rickblechta. com>
> > > > > > <mailto:rick% 40rickblechta. com>>
> > > > > > > Aan: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
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> > > > > > > Verzonden: 15-12-07 19:31
> > > > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Second
> > > > > thoughts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Dec 15, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Hessel Herder
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Has EGBDF's 'My Song' ever been played live?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll say it, if only to beat Mattias to the
> > > > > punch:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One hopes not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > =)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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