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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

From: mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se>
Date: 2010-04-27

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The  Venture Bros) I always had issues with the drumsolo on a kitchen table part.

Close to the edge always felt so great because it was musically efficient, logical and to the point...and then they gave us topographic oceans.

As a drummer I have always had problems with Alan White in comparison to Bill Bruford.

// Mattias

Den 2010-04-27 07.54, skrev "Chris Dale" <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>:


 
 
   

Yeah, I agree.
 
 
Topographic Oceans is a demanding listen. I could never really get into it 100% until recently. Now I appreciate it so much more.
 
I had to listen to each piece of music at different times though. If I do that then I always enjoy it, but the whole thing all at once sometimes is a bit much, and the subtleties can easily get lost.
 
It really depends on what mood you're in I think.
 
 


 
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Thanks Chris-
  The Topographic stage setup was also noted in the book.  Moving parts, very complex.  I believe they devoted nearly all of the tour to playing "Topographic" at the time, which would've been tough on the audiences.  I saw the following Relayer tour (with Moraz).  It had a similar stage, but the only "Topographic" piece played was "Ritual".
   I liked "Topographic" on record.  Long, sweeping aural vistas, the stuff of headphones.  The only thing that bugged me was the compressed nature of the mix.
   Roger Dean and Yes are forever stuck with each other.
 
   -Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 8:02 AM


  Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com <http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> , Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ ...> wrote:
>
> A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris-
> > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > that. Mind-bending!
> > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> > -Bruce D.
> >
> >
> > --- On ∗Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ ...>∗ wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ ...>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com <http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
> > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@ earthlin
> > k.net <http://k.net/> <http://us.mc636. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=punchbowl4@ ... <http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@...> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >> 6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >> -Bruce D.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>