Nice sounding mic pre's on the onyx series.
Digital tron? I dunno...It's pretty. Somedays my tron just doesn't want to sound good or in tune on a track, so I just do something else because it wasn't meant to be. The days it wants to play nicely, it's magic. I imagine the digital tron will sound just fine everyday but I anticipate there won't be any magic for me.
fd
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From: tony1 <atm655@verizon. net>
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
Agreed I have a small Mackie for my practice room and I like the little sucker.
Their Oynx 80 looks good to me.
That ought to piss the neighbors off.
Have a great weekend and thanks for your valued input (no pun).
Best,
Tony
PS what do you think of this digital Mellotron?
I'm wating for M5000 #2.
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Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
Glad to help. We still have one of the first Mackie 8-buss mixers delivered to NY. It has the shit beat out of it and it still sounds fine. I have a first gen 1604 ganged to a 1604 VLZ. That's what I tracked and mixed my record on. Can't kill those Mackie boards. If there is a Hall of Fame for mixers, the first gen 1604 has got to get in :>) Not one problem in 18 years.
fd
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From: tony1 <atm655@verizon. net>
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
Hey Fritz,
I don't buy used for a lot of reasons.
Former AES member too, so no stranger to this stuff.
Out of practice sure, but my ears still spot on tunings etc, as I was the synth tech for a major store here and drew clients from all over the Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater area (over 3 million folks).
I like the Mackie stuff and am 90% sure they make a 48 channel board, plus I still have my "ins" from those days locally.
I remember the unvieling of the Solid State Logic board at the 1979 AES convention in Los Angeles. What a piece of gear as well as the Neve!
Going to have a look at Toft stuff in a few.
Thanks for your suggestions, I'll let you know what I end up with.
Best,
Tony
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Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
Be very wary of buying anything used unless you have a good tech and know what to look for. If you are looking for something used, see if you can get it in your set up for a while.
Gonna be tough finding something that's over 32 channels that isn't geared more for live unless you've got some bucks to spend.
Please stay away from digital mixers. Yes, they're convenient but sound like shit.
Old Mackie 8-buss mixers still sound nice and you can probably find a side car for them. Mackie Digital 8-buss are absolute nightmares.
New stuff? I'm liking the Chinese made Toft ATB series. They all have a monitor section so a 32 channel board can net you 64 discrete inputs. They sound very nice too for the money.
SSL AWS 900 kicks sublime ass but it's pricey. It would be my desert island desk. We have one at work...maybe they won't miss it :>)
fd
-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon. net>
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
Speaking for myself, I find something interesting in about every musical instrument around.
I need a larger mixer (40+ chan) and I would appreciate an honest reccomendation fellas!
Thanks in advance,
Tony
Neve is a bit out of my reach lol.
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Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
Nah, I doubt this will make a difference to the "Chamberlin" market. If you ever had one or ever played one you'd know.
Chamberlin sounds in a Mellotron do not sound the same as a real Chamberlin - just as the M400 violins do not sound identical to the MK II violins, nor do M300 sounds or MK II sounds sound like a real MK II or M300 if they're coming from an M400.
This is my experience playing multiple Chamberlins and Mellotrons over the last 20 years. They're all unique and different.
If you really spend time closely listening to all these instruments you can tell.
Most people can't because they only use 1 machine at best. No A and B comparison can be made.
This new digital version is for a different market anyway.
I imagine Markus will continue to build the MK 6 alongside this digital tron, just as Streetly will continue with the M4000.
And rightfully so.
Anyone wanting authenticity and a product of real quality will buy an original tape version.
Anyone wanting the sounds and feel with digital high quality will buy an authorized "tribute version"
There's room for both.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Mattias Olsson
<Mattias.olsson5@ comhem.se> wrote:
Buying a Chamberlin M1 for 7000 dollars wont really make as much sense anymore...
But keep it a secret...
// Mattias
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Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
If true, Memotron is done for. Markus will hit a home run if pricing is that low.
Its a lot lower than that.
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:48:51 -0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
I'd be surprised if it was that cheap. Didn't someone post $2700? That seems more likely, but even that could be low.
Bernie
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