To hell with it, I'm not going to take on all three of you.....
john
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> > From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...>
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:05 pm
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Mellotrons Live vs Studio
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> > The reason why Mellotron samples don't (usually) sound like a Mellotron
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> > regarding eq, volume, pitching and the rest of it that makes it veer
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> > well away from the original sound. Some samplers interpolate the sounds
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> > I /have/ sampled my Mellotron strings, choir and brass faithfully
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> > without making any adjustments whatsoever and I would happily defy
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> > > I would imagine that the multiple overdubs that the studio albums
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> > > the musical sensibilities of the producer. Hearing that
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> > > realtime audio of tape moving across heads and passing through amps
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> > > and speakers has an immediacy that doesn't seem to translate to
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> > > recording. That's why Mellotron samples don't sound like a
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> > > Mellotron. They sound like samples of a Mellotron.
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> > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > ∗From:∗ Mark Pring <mailto:markpringnz@...>
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> > > ∗To:∗ newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
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> > > ∗Sent:∗ Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:53 AM
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> > > ∗Subject:∗ [newmellotrongroup] Mellotrons Live vs Studio
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> > > Just listening to some live Moody Blues track on Last FM, well
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> > > actually Melancholy Man. Just got me thinking of the difference
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> > > between the live and studio sound of the mellotron. I much prefer
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> > > the live sound, not knowing much about recording, what do they do
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> > > them in the recording studio to take most of the life out of them?
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> > > Mark
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