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So just think - if true:All the hard work these last 20 years - all the years of cleaning and preserving of tapes, recording them, archiving them, saving the sounds to computers, changing pinch rollers, pressure pads, cleaning capstans, adjusting tape head azimuth, re-doing the cycling mechanisms, track selectors, re-wiring power supplies, installing motors, re-building old machines, re-doing the cabinets....making new parts......and the money, and energy, and time spent to do it.....to first save and then re-introduce the instrumentit's all being shit upon by someone with a sampler and a case to fool people with.Some guy who wants to bask in the glow of others accomplishments, others music history, and years of toil and countless hard work by other people he never supported or contributed to.At least other people who have done something similar have bought real Mellotrons or digital products from Streetly or Mellotron. and are supporting them. They keep it going.I hope you're wrong Frank.Well.....I guess walking around with Pabst Blue Ribbon bottles and secretly having cheap Chinese beer inside will be next. :)On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:00 AM, lsf5275@aol.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:I don't think it is a real Mellotron. I think it is a cabinet with a sampler in it. It's too tall for a Mark VI or an M400 and not deep enough front to back to be an M4000. There is no continuous hinge on the lid so it wasn't made by Markus or Streetly and the cut-outs in to lower back panel aren't right. I think it's a fake.
Frank (Real M400, Real M4000, Real Mark II)In a message dated 8/30/2014 2:46:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com writes:I thought that as well.None of this sounds 'live' to me at all except for the lead singing and the drums.The background vocals are especially fake.Those aren't Mellotron strings. The Mellotron is inaudible. The players hands don't match what he's playing.Looks like it was used as a prop.This is a double edged sword for me. It's always nice to see a Mellotron on a mainstream show, but this also somehow always comes across like someone taking some great painting and using it as a coffee table with a person putting his coffee mug down on it and saying 'look how cool (but in reality - uncool) I am'.I'm sure that's not the intended effect.But it's like the hipster version of the cliche black grand piano you see in someone's grand spacious home. It sits there, looks nice, is regularly polished - and never gets played. The impression it makes is a non-impression.The music itself is okay. I liked it. The melodies and arrangements are interesting. The songs are good.But this performance itself seems more about catering to the hipster crowd - probably not the bands doing if they're on a show like Jimmy Kimmel. (And the crowd noise is also fake - at the beginning of Runaway - you hear more people cheering then are actually there)I'd like to see ∗genuine∗ live performances from them and listen to more of their songs to decide whether I truly like them or not.The music is impressive, this 'live' performance isn't.In a music video - okay, never a problem.But don't present something as 'live' and lie about it. We now have the technology (mics, amps, etc.) to put on the best live shows.Never before in the history of the world has that been possible.There's no excuse in this day and age for this.Yes, you can argue TV's been doing this for years. But that's beside the point.It's never acceptable or worthwhile - regardless of who is doing it.Bullshit is bullshit.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:05 PM, markpringnz <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I meant doesn't sound live.