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On 1 jul. 2014, at 06:17, "Chris Dale unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I believe that's actually a Chamberlin on Elliot Smith's work.The Chamberlin is very similar to the Mellotron but has a different library of sounds (except for the violin sound which is the same because it originated with the Chamberlin library).I think the Sparklehorse stuff is mostly samples - probably the Mellotron CD ROM.On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Otis Vroon otisvroon@icloud.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Has any of you guys heard the Mellotron played by Jon Brion on Elliott Smith's songs "twilight" and on "everything means nothing to me"? That along with some of Mellotron parts on the Sparklehorse albums made me fall in love with it.It took me years before I found out what instrument it is.Thanks for the welcome and I'm looking forward to future posts.
On 1 jul. 2014, at 00:17, "Hammonddave hammonddave2004@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Except that we don't allow guitar players here!(Just kidding.... Welcome!)
David
On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:33 PM, "Chris Dale unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Welcome Otis,I'm sorry that you had to have that as an introduction to our group.Tony is right.We all love the Mellotron sound, but we have different musical needs / requirements / ways of attaining it, and we're all from different walks of life.There's users of both Mellotrons and digital emulations here and our group is probably helpful resource because of that.You'll have good quality help from people here. If one of us doesn't know the answer, someone else will probably have it.ChrisOn Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Tony Moffett atm655@verizon.net [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Welcome Otis!
This wasn’t a normal situation for we members.This “guy” came out swinging and that usually doesn’t go over well here.There is plenty of help here with Mellotron issues, fixes etc.I hope you enjoy the group!Tony M400 and M4000On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Otis Vroon otisvroon@icloud.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hello everyone, My name is Otis and I'm new to this forum. Since last week I own a Mellotron m4000d and I'm completely over the moon with it. It will be nice to learn more about Mellotrons. I hope that I can get a real one in the future.Right away I see there's some heated discussion, but I never understood why people think a real Mellotron is too expensive for what is, or why it would be ridiculous to own one, or buy one for a lot of money. People easily pay more for a new kitchen or a car and somehow, in situations like that, I never hear people freak out about it (i would).In the end it is just about what you like to do and what makes you happy. I like instruments and dislike computers somewhat. As a guitar player I don't feel like sitting behind my pc and play music that way. Old-fashioned point of view for a 31-one-year-old I guess haha.I'm surprised that the samples, digital vs electromechanical issue can still generate such interest and emotion. I think they all have their uses and depend on pretty much on how much time and money one has and what sort of sound one is after.
There is something different in playing a mellotron as opposed to playing samples if nothing else the feel of the keyboard is unique! I do understand now why people want the real thing.
On a piece I was recording recently I couldn't be bothered setting up my mellotron, I just wanted a few bars of the 8 choir for a little musical idea, I went to M-Tron pro and the Streetly expansion pack but the sound was out of tune in a way which didn't work for me. I started up Redtron and that was the sound I wanted that time.
Please don't think that I don't like the Streetly expansion pack, I am very happy with it but I don't think the samples are tuned which makes it sound authentic but that isn't always what I want. One of my favourite mellotron sounds at the moment is the string tape sound of my MicroKorg xl+ and I'm not sure how close those samples are to any mellotron.
I'm not sure why anyone would want to leave the group over this, the original post does sound a bit like trolling although he had been a member for a while. Possibly his mellotron had been playing up, like mine it probably needs a rebuild, I can understand that kind of frustration!
Mark