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Subject: Re: Somewhat Off-Topic: minimoogs

From: "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Date: 2012-11-18

The Minimoog Voyager Performer Edition and the Minimoog Voyager Old School both seem over priced to me, considering the Little Phatty slim is $849.00. All you need is a controller keyboard with good mod and pitch wheels. If you don't already have a good controller keyboard, the Little Phatty stage edition makes sense - Good value there too.

Clay


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, gino wong <wonggster@...> wrote:
>
> Play it, some sound like test equipment, no funk at all.
> £ 1250 is a fair price if in good condition it goes up and down according
> to quality. If well kept a lot more.
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
> > ∗∗
> >
> >
> > ∗∗And can be bought for half the price! [image: ;-)]
> >
> > Andy Kinch
> > kinchmusic@...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@...>
> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:48
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Somewhat Off-Topic: minimoogs
> >
> >
> > Other options - Get a new little phatty (stage or slim) There are many
> > good reasons to go for a new one and only one reason to buy an old one.
> > http://www.moogmusic.com/products/phattys/slim-phatty Some people think
> > the old mini Moog sounds more analog or more gritty or more something...
> > The new ones sound FAB to me. The interface is the same on all of the
> > Phatty's and it's beautiful. A breeze to figure out.
> >
> > For an instant erection, check out the white ones!
> >
> > Clay
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Marshall" <paulm@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > >
> > > Agree with all the comments made so far, I add my ten penn'orth as I am
> > in the UK like yourself.
> > >
> > > Bought mine in 2006 off eBay and paid £1650. It's a 1974 model (date is
> > on the test ticket which on mine is glued onto the bottom of the pop-up
> > metal box).
> > >
> > > I've had 2 issues since then
> > > (1) power supply failure (diode burned out in the bridge rectifier) - I
> > think this was caused by the 2 aged PSU capacitors which I should have
> > replaced when I bought it really. Swapped them out and replaced all 4
> > diodes in the bridge, £3 for the bits from maplin :-)
> > >
> > > (2) wacky tuning - just oxidised contacts in the multi pin plugs which
> > connect the keyboard and the pitch/ mod wheel assemblies. You could clean
> > them but I just replaced them with gold plated 'Trident' connectors which I
> > am used to using professionally - sorted.
> > >
> > > Overall I wouldn't be too scared to take the plunge as they sound
> > f∗∗∗ing amazing and as Chris says are built from standard parts which
> > should be around for some time to come.
> > >
> > > And they look nice sat on top of a Mellotron. Now where's my gold cape
> > :-o ?
> > >
> > > cheers Paul M.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Chris Dale
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:22 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Somewhat Off-Topic: minimoogs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Gary is 100% right about the $2000.00 price for a Minimoog especially in
> > this economy. Sometimes they might be a little more now ($3000) depending
> > on some variables.
> > >
> > >
> > > The biggest issue with them is the oscillator tuning and whether this
> > matters a lot to you.
> > >
> > > When I got my Minimoog (back in 1990) people were paying more for the
> > ones with the original oscillator cards (in serial numbers below 10000 I
> > believe).
> > >
> > > Those were supposed to sound just like the modular Moogs, (hence the
> > name mini-moog).
> > >
> > > In 1976 Norlin music (which took over Robert Moog's company) changed the
> > oscillator boards and made them more stable - less tuning drift.
> > >
> > > But the downside is that the sounds weren't as rich because the new
> > oscillators didn't drift slightly like the old ones, giving a fatter and
> > (some say better) sound.
> > >
> > > Another more important issue is whether the keyboard was ever sawed off
> > from the electronics.
> > > Some 'late 80's/early 90's hipster-morons' used to saw off the keyboard
> > and rack mount the electronic portion (what they thought was hot-rodding it
> > to make it look more contemporary.) What they really did was just damage
> > everything by changing the way cool air could circulate under the
> > electronics.
> > >
> > > The old vs newer oscillator cards / rackmounted units were big issues
> > back when I got mine.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if it influences price / desirability these days.
> > >
> > > But it is something to be aware of.
> > >
> > >
> > > You can tell from the back of the Minimoog whether you have the old or
> > new oscillator cards.
> > >
> > > There are holes directly behind the oscillators that you stick a
> > Phillips screwdriver in to tune them. It's fairly straightforward to do.
> > >
> > > The old ones have a more haphazard hole arrangement for the octave
> > /pitch tuning.
> > > On the post-1976 ones are the holes all nicely lined up.
> > >
> > > Minimoogs are fairly easy to get fixed because they are made from simple
> > parts and electronics. In fact, the Minimoogs of the 70's will be around a
> > lot longer than many chip based 80's synths because of simpler parts.
> > >
> > > It's probably best to Google about all this and that way you can make an
> > informed decision before agreeing to a price.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Someone local to me is selling a minimoog. I admit I am tempted. He
> > doesn't have any idea for a price and I don't know what I should be wary
> > about. Yes, we're quite a team.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What are they generally being sold for these days?
> > > What do you look for in one? What are the usual defects? How easy are
> > they to get fixed these days? (Bear in mind I am in the UK - you cannot
> > even get a Hammond fixed without grief round here)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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