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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Peter Gabriel - So what?

From: Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@aol.com>
Date: 2012-05-26

I agree with point #3, but vehemently disagree with 1,2 and 4

Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan.

fritzdoddy

On May 26, 2012, at 8:38 AM, R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Chris,

I totally agree. So much so that I said I'd rather visit the Pompeii arena empty and feel the vibes of a bygone concert by the Floyd than see the band nowadays (last 30 years). 
As for why this is happening, there are many possibilities of course, my theory.

1. Digital life made musicians almost obsolete. ANy moron can "play, record and post it in the web". Just like picture taking.
2. Ecstasy is not a good drug for music. People get so stupid that they see a DJ as musician!!! Bloody hell...
3. People are so anxious and neurotic that they can't  'listen'to anything without pressing the FWD key to the next song...3000 songs in the Ipod and most never listen till the end...
4. Total lack of identification with the band. Digital made bands/record covers/credits useless...nobody knows who's playing and nobody cares...

All in all...nobody cares for music at all I'd say...Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad: but true!

best,

Roberto


To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 02:53:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]hris,

 Re: Peter Gabriel - So what?

 

I almost never go see big name classic rock concerts anymore.
 
 
Usually, some of the original band members are missing, (Moody Blues, Beach Boys, The Who, Pink Floyd) or the performers can't sing as well or play as well anymore (The Police, Led Zeppelin).
 
Or - the band is naturally using some shitty vapid digital equipment in place of the original instruments, and the sound is an updated, sterilized, modern version that has all the life sucked out of it.
 
I saw The Band once and Garth Hudson (and some other unknown keyboardist alongside him) were using the shittiest, most depressing 80's reverbed Korg and Roland organ sounds to do Chest Fever. It was unbelievably bad.
It sounded like kids playing a casio keyboard in a Walmart toy section aisle.
The same with Jerry Corbetta of Sugarloaf. Green Eyed Lady was played with tinny hip-hop organ sounds - just sonic garbage.
 
Some of these bands also use augmenting hack musicians on stage and girl dancers that have nothing to do with helping the original band or music style. It's just insulting to the original spirit or identity of the band.
 
A different example a  few years ago was when I went to see Paul McCartney in Toronto. It was enjoyable up to the point when people started trying to sing along. It was sufferable for a while.
But then came 'Hey Jude' which was the absolute worst.  The song was literally murdered by the sing-along of the absolute worst choir of out of tune morons I've ever heard. And their collective breath stank like a sewage pipe.
 
I remember seeing a Beach Boys concert clip where one of them asked those who could sing to sing along, and those who couldn't to 'please keep quiet'.
I thought it was very rude for them to say that at the time, but after that Hey Jude performance, I now understand why.
 
 
Overall, the expense, time and the trouble you go through to see a concert just isn't worth it.
 
These bands today mostly exist as shadows of their former selves - almost their own tribute bands.
 
I now prefer a good DVD of a classic quality performance from the by-gone days to what's passing as a live show.
 
Of course, if it's a band I respect and never got the chance to see, (like Nektar) then I'll make an exception, but generally a glorified tribute band version, with tinny keyboards, vocal harmonizer effects, and anonymous helpers and dancers doesn't make for a decent concert.
 
And the irony is with the technology today - we can have a great sounding concert more times than not.
So why is this happening?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

(GROAN)
I'm sure he's READY for it.
 
I was surprised to hear one of his songs on a TV commercial recently.  It was "Big Time", and I think it was on one of those god-forsaken Swiffer ads.  Money trumps integrity once in a while.
 
  -Bruce D.
 

From: trawnajim <jimab@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:11 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Peter Gabriel - So what?

 


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>   It would be fun to see him at Red Rocks here in Colorado, except for the unreasonable ticket prices and the bullshit on-line ticket sale methods.  Those reasons alone reduce the enjoyment of the event.  I haven't seen a major concert in years.
>  
>   -Bruce D. 
> (with a trace of sarcastic bitterness)

I suppose it's likely that he will do Red Rain at Red Rocks. Perhaps they can get Red Rider as openers.

Jim Bailey