Hi,
I'm a huge Wyatt's fan..so much that I don't collect songs...the only exception being Moon in June...and Rock Bottom still amazes me and moves me after all these years...a CHarles Cross award well deserved...Mantler's Hapless Child , Rypdal etc are what some people call EUropean Jazz (should be ECM) even Hatfield made great use of the Tron...as opposed to American jazz, and there (European)I have to agree that the Tron has a place...but otherwise...I can't see the Jazz giants into it..COltrane and Tron ? Unlikely...ALbert AYler (when I'm out my mind I listen to it...beauuutiful!)...but not again..so that's the way I see it...maybe I'm wrong...I love to stretch boundaries...but somehow certain things don't cross...
ANyhow...I love this group...finally some people who knows AND cares about music...a lot to learn for me...that's for sure.
thank y'all,
Roberto
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: rmrmax@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:54:26 -0700
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The Tron & Jazz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
From: R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: rmrmax@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:54:26 -0700
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The Tron & Jazz
Roberto,
Maybe you are right ?
There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
Robert
From: R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
best,
Roberto
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From: rmrmax@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
From: John Hammaren <hammaren@geoconcepts.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
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To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: rmrmax@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
John,
I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
Also, check out Mal Waldron.
With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
Robert
From: John Hammaren <hammaren@geoconcepts.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
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Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
fritz
fritz
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From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
From: Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
I like both....
My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.
Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
From: Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
I'll get my coat.
Andy K
PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
Andy Kinch
kinchmusic@aol.com
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